Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
This is a place to talk about the upcoming service changes in Merseyside.
We can discuss the changes and our opinions.
But also post what upcoming service changes there are.

[North West Bus Spotter]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
The 10B was supposed to be withdrawn, hasn't happened yet

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(11/04/2023 16:06)North West Bus Spotter Wrote:  The 10B was supposed to be withdrawn, hasn't happened yet

I think that was an old registration and it presently runs on a different one. Only think that as Arriva also cancelled a few other registrations at the same time, some of which haven't run for quite a long time.

Apologies for going slightly off topic but on the subject of long withdrawn routes, does anyone know why the 30 (St Helens area) still shows on apps/bus times/Google Maps etc?

[NathanR]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
Arriva have published their LCR service changes that are coming into effect from this Sunday.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...s-april-23

Edit: Does anyone know if Bootle's 781 is being withdrawn? This is because St. Helens operates a 781 of their own.

[chris-s]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(11/04/2023 16:23)NathanR Wrote:  Arriva have published their LCR service changes that are coming into effect from this Sunday.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...s-april-23

Edit: Does anyone know if Bootle's 781 is being withdrawn? This is because St. Helens operates a 781 of their own.

St helens no longer operate the 781 or any schools

[Raawwwrrr!]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(11/04/2023 16:06)North West Bus Spotter Wrote:  The 10B was supposed to be withdrawn, hasn't happened yet

The 10B isn’t being withdrawn.

As stated in another thread, it’s a dormant service. Essentially registered on a different licence many years ago and wasn’t formally published as cancelled (on that license). It was de-registered with routes such as the 25 Open Top service which hasn’t operated for over 10 years and the 41 Pontins service to name a few.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(11/04/2023 16:21)St Helens Rider Wrote:  Apologies for going slightly off topic but on the subject of long withdrawn routes, does anyone know why the 30 (St Helens area) still shows on apps/bus times/Google Maps etc?

Arriva hasn't removed the service from their open data. It's still in their ticketer systems with no end date and so it is still being picked up by journey planners.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(12/04/2023 17:47)iMarkeh Wrote:  Arriva hasn't removed the service from their open data. It's still in their ticketer systems with no end date and so it is still being picked up by journey planners.

Thanks for the explanation.

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(11/04/2023 16:23)NathanR Wrote:  Arriva have published their LCR service changes that are coming into effect from this Sunday.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...s-april-23

Edit: Does anyone know if Bootle's 781 is being withdrawn? This is because St. Helens operates a 781 of their own.

Also Merseytravel's is out as well https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travel-u...e-changes/
Most notable changes are:
17/17A/17X which will see the Knowsley Industrial Estate services be renumbered 17A.
20/21 which will see a Saturday reduction to every 20 minutes each.
17 which will see a Sunday/evening increased between St Helens & Widnes only. Chain Lane will remain seeing at 2 hour service.
28 which will see the route change around St Helens & Laffak, Increase to run every 30 minutes & no longer extends from St Helens to St Helens Hospital.
29 new service replacing the 39A.
37 Sunday service withdraw.
38A now run by Arriva & runs hourly instead of 2 hourly.
39 Sunday service introduced. With daytime services extending to Newton-le-Willows Station.
39A withdrawn
141 withdrawn
152 extended from Ormskirk to Southport replacing the 315.
153 times changes to run in-line with 152 service.
156 daytime service will be ran by HTL. Sunday/evenings increased hourly.
329 evenings introduced.
602 increased to hourly.
HTL will have to have more buses to run these services.

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(13/04/2023 14:17)Merseysidebusenthusiast Wrote:  Also Merseytravel's is out as well https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travel-u...e-changes/
Most notable changes are:
17/17A/17X which will see the Knowsley Industrial Estate services be renumbered 17A.
20/21 which will see a Saturday reduction to every 20 minutes each.
17 which will see a Sunday/evening increased between St Helens & Widnes only. Chain Lane will remain seeing at 2 hour service.
28 which will see the route change around St Helens & Laffak, Increase to run every 30 minutes & no longer extends from St Helens to St Helens Hospital.
29 new service replacing the 39A.
37 Sunday service withdraw.
38A now run by Arriva & runs hourly instead of 2 hourly.
39 Sunday service introduced. With daytime services extending to Newton-le-Willows Station.
39A withdrawn
141 withdrawn
152 extended from Ormskirk to Southport replacing the 315.
153 times changes to run in-line with 152 service.
156 daytime service will be ran by HTL. Sunday/evenings increased hourly.
329 evenings introduced.
602 increased to hourly.
HTL will have to have more buses to run these services.

These where posted in another feed a good few weeks ago so not just come out