Greater Manchester Franchising

[Rodney259]

Greater Manchester Franchising
This is being opened as I agree with Barney as the Greater Manchester Service Changes thread has been taken up with this subject in recent days.

[dounowhoiam]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising
Councillors have pledged their support for the Franchising project, Andy Burnham likely to approve of it on March 23rd:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/...g-20216805

[SF07]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising
Nine of the ten councils have voted in favour of bus reforms. Bolton Council the one who didn't vote in favour. Now down to Andy Burnham to approve.

Quote:Major reform of Greater Manchester's bus network one step away after nine out of 10 councils approve historic plans
Passengers could soon be riding on publicly-run buses with streamlined timetables, fares and one uniform livery

Greater Manchester is nearing the finish line for taking control of its bus network as nine out of 10 councils voted in favour of reform at a special meeting.

It means post-pandemic passengers could be riding on services managed by leaders, with capped fares, consistent timetables and the historically elusive capacity to integrate ticketing across buses, trains and trams.

If reform jumps the final hurdle - the green light from Mayor Andy Burnham - there would also likely be a uniform livery across all services, akin to the pre-Thatcher days of Manchester's iconic orange buses.

Earlier this year, following a review of the proposal in light of the pandemic, transport chiefs had recommended leaders pursue a franchised system, stating that under all but the 'least likely' economic scenarios modelled, it would provide best value to the taxpayer.

That recommendation was then approved before scrutiny ahead of today's Greater Manchester Combined Authority meeting, where the 10 councils - except Bolton - voted in favour of the proposal.

The final decision now lies with Mayor Andy Burnham, who is expected to make an announcement this week.

If it receives the mayor's stamp of approval, Greater Manchester would become the first place outside of London to have a regulated system since the 1980s.

Bus reform was originally on the agenda for 2020, but the process was stalled due to the pandemic.

Passenger numbers have since plummeted, leading to a £28m Government bailout to subsidise services.

In light of Covid-19's huge impact on the network, a second consultation on the regulation plan was carried out and the results showed a 'high level of public support' for the idea.

Although that support had diminished - from 83pc to 71pc - it still showed a strong public will for change.

Aside from potentially changing thousands of bus passengers lives, the move could also be significant on the national stage. After Margaret Thatcher deregulated networks outside London in 1986, many of the country's major cities have been looking to London in recent years as a model for how to run their networks.

According to Transport for Greater Manchester, around £135m would be needed to transition into the franchised system, to be funded through a combination of one-off local authority contributions, income from previous and future rises to the mayor's precept and cash returned by the government under Greater Manchester's devolution deal.

The first phase would not come into effect until 2023-2025.

David Greenhalgh, leader of Conservative-run Bolton Council - the only authority to return an 'against vote' - said after the meeting his decision had not been a political one.

He added: "It is the stance of the Conservatives but this was not political, this is about getting the best deal.

"Our concern is the fact we haven't reached an agreement on the funding. Clearly, even what's been agreed implies massive millions of pounds of contribution from individual boroughs - and huge amounts on to the mayoral precept through residents to pay on council tax.

"Nobody questions the need for bus reform - I'm certainly not opposed to bus reform - we need it, it's not worked and the current model is flawed. "

But he said following the government last week (on a £3bn pot to fund bus reform ) and the 'new proposals over enhanced partnerships', the decision should be deferred to 'look at every single option available'.

He said he was uncomfortable with the 'level of uncertainty' over funding and the financial burden on local councils.

Mr Greenhalgh's minority vote will have been appreciated by the many bus operators, including Stagecoach, First, Go North West and Rotala, who have strongly opposed a franchising model, arguing it would lead to a fare rises and fail to turn around the decline in passenger numbers. One Bus - a body representing the region’s bus firms - said GMCA was ‘rushing the process’.

Stagecoach and Rotala, which runs Diamond Bus North West, have submitted separate court applications for a judicial review of the proposed bus reform process. Both argue the consultation was 'unlawful' because it did not properly take into account the impact of Covid-19.

Last week Gary Nolan, chief executive of OneBus, told the Manchester Evening News: "With so much debate about which system is best and neither seemingly ticking all the boxes, there is still the chance of going for the middle ground where Enhanced Partnerships give the Combined Authority more control, without council tax payers facing all of the revenue risk when things go wrong and the Government putting £3bn on the table for plans across England to be put in place.

"Manchester could have the lion's share of that rather than a failed London system."

However, unlike the first consultation, One Bus and Stagecoach did not put forward their own 'partnership' proposals as an alternative to franchising - in which they had previously promised investment, while not handing over control of the network - because 'they can they can no longer hold to commitments made in previous proposals', due to Covid-19.

Should a franchising system get into financial trouble, Greater Manchester would need to consider one or more options, including increased fares, cutting routes and more council subsidy.

The move coincides with Boris Johnson's announcement of a £3bn pot of cash to encourage authorities to work with bus firms to streamline fares, routes and ticketing. The details of their plan encourage authorities to do what is best for them in terms of partnership or franchising.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/...d-20237218

[Bevan Price]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising
Yes - the cost of bus franchising is the great unknown. Will Mr Burnham & co. want huge increases in Council Tax to pay for it all? And how will voters react to increases in a tax which bears little relationship to their current income & ability to pay?

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising

(24/03/2021 13:48)Bevan Price Wrote:  Yes - the cost of bus franchising is the great unknown. Will Mr Burnham & co. want huge increases in Council Tax to pay for it all? And how will voters react to increases in a tax which bears little relationship to their current income & ability to pay?

I think in the current economic climate it’s s crazy idea. We will be paying for furlough and all the covid grants for years to come. A big big issue for me as a car and a bus driver is the state of the roads. Normally councils are splashing the cash at this time of year resurfacing and fixing potholes - it’s not happening. Councils are skint. Let’s get the current problems sorted before creating any more.

[Mrboo]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising
BREAKING: Greater Manchester takes control of its buses in historic move after Andy Burnham green light
'Transport has held us back', the Mayor says.

'As we start our recovery from Covid it is time to put that right'.

He says a 'significant' amount of work has been undertaken for how the buses can support the region.

He says 'we have done everything properly' and 'following yesterday's failed legal action to stop this legal process' he has made his decision.

He says he has read everything in the report about why change is needed now and the cost of franchising, and the economic benefits.

'I have also considered the views of the public, transport staff and stakeholders about these proposals. Taking all of that into account, I can today announce that after 35 years of deregulation in GM I have decided to bring our buses back under local, public control'.

He says it will be introduced from early 2023.

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[Mrboo]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising
First franchised buses will be rolled out in Bolton and Wigan by January 2023, with the rest of the network expected to be online by January 2025.

[KXW212]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising

(25/03/2021 15:01)Mrboo Wrote:  First franchised buses will be rolled out in Bolton and Wigan by January 2023, with the rest of the network expected to be online by January 2025.

https://news.tfgm.com/news/mayor-of-grea...over-buses

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising
My question would be what are the implications for cross boundary services.

[Mrboo]

RE: Greater Manchester Franchising

(25/03/2021 16:00)St Helens Rider Wrote:  My question would be what are the implications for cross boundary services.

it be like London they can get a permit to run into Area I would think and TFGM tickets cant be used. so routes like 125 from Preston to Bolton would have no issues. and like London TFL buses run out of the area. it would come down to the current depot if within Bolton or Wigan they would be taken over first.