Northern Rail

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern Rail

(14/01/2016 13:52)knutstransport Wrote:  It's more in comparison to other unit types, apparently there's 15 x 323s in service in the morning peak on weekdays and 1 x 323 is out long-term for re-tractioning work leaving only 1 other 323 spare.

Apparently they've nabbed a 323 of an Alderley Edge working so the 142 is off the Airport workings.

The 142(044) that worked the 1016 Lime St to Man Air and return wasn't off an Airport working,it was additional off Allerton depot,did the 1016 Lime St - Man Air and return and then went empty Lime St-Manchester Victoria at 1247 to assist with the afternoon service out of Manchester Victoria

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern Rail
What a come down for the passengers used to getting a 319 on the Manchester airport service , I have to admit though a 142 on good rails can't half shift if its healthy and running on both engines with a gearbox that works .

[jtd508110]

RE: Northern Rail
There are some decent 142's out there. Still an EMU will leave a DMU for dead (if driven correctly)

I've heard another 319 was having problems this morning. Don't know as wasn't up that early.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern Rail
I bet Northern are thinking lets see if arriva can get these 319's more reliable , seeing as there probably going to have to take on more of them when the 323 go to london Midland .

[jtd508110]

RE: Northern Rail
The 22:09 Manchester Victoria - Liverpool Lime Street failed in the neutral section near Eccles tonight and was there for nearly 2 hours. 361 and 378 the units involved so I'm told

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern Rail
How long are Neutral sections ?

[jtd508110]

RE: Northern Rail
They aren't long at all... I don't know the exact distance but they normally on,y last for a few seconds when the train is going along

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern Rail
A standard neutral section is 155 feet long. The dead section of wire is 15 feet long.

SD.

[507022]

RE: Northern Rail

(20/01/2016 12:22)Sprinterdriver Wrote:  A standard neutral section is 155 feet long. The dead section of wire is 15 feet long.

SD.

So with 2 319s one of them should have been on the live section

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern Rail

(20/01/2016 13:50)507022 Wrote:  So with 2 319s one of them should have been on the live section

That is what I was thinking the pantographs would have been up in both sections , unless one was a dead load with pantograph down.