Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

[Metroline1511]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(13/06/2026 11:33)Olympian2100 Wrote:  Isn't it the case that St Helens is not getting electrified yet, so won't be able to run Electroliners, only diesel buses?
Also, on commencement of Franchising at St Helens, won't Arriva lose their share of the 10/10A services and they will be 100% Stagecoach from St Helens depot?

Indeed, I was predicting diesel E400MMCs from Gillmoss being held back and redeployed to St Helens if some Streetdecks are late. Yes, the GM share of route 10a is due to move to SH.

To clarify my other prediction, I think the Electroliners will generally run routes 14, 53, 82, 86 and 86c (but 10a only temporarily while it has a GM allocation) and Enviro 400 EVs on routes 17, 19, 20, 21 and derived routes.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot
I’m wondering what will the PVR at Gillmoss under franchising likely be as I don’t think 108 deckers will be enough for a full fleet.

[Olympian2100]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(Today 12:24)Y458 KNF Wrote:  I’m wondering what will the PVR at Gillmoss under franchising likely be as I don’t think 108 deckers will be enough for a full fleet.

The depot will lose vehicles as it will no longer work the 10/10A, which will be 100% operated from St Helens, the 53, which will be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner and the Maghull Circulars, which will also be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(Today 14:11)Olympian2100 Wrote:  The depot will lose vehicles as it will no longer work the 10/10A, which will be 100% operated from St Helens, the 53, which will be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner and the Maghull Circulars, which will also be operated from Bootle by the Sefton Franchise winner.

Knew about the 10A but didn’t think about the 53 and Maghalls, makes a bit more sense then if you include the 20 hydrogen Enviro400 electric converts which I’m sure will all go to Gillmoss.

[chris-s]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(Today 12:24)Y458 KNF Wrote:  I’m wondering what will the PVR at Gillmoss under franchising likely be as I don’t think 108 deckers will be enough for a full fleet.

Don't forget Gillmoss and green Lane are 1 bid so you could see routes moving between the 2depots. Will be interesting if stagecoach win the green Lane and gillmoss tranche and having st helens too

[Olympian2100]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(Today 15:01)chris-s Wrote:  Don't forget Gillmoss and green Lane are 1 bid so you could see routes moving between the 2depots. Will be interesting if stagecoach win the green Lane and gillmoss tranche and having st helens too

If Arriva Merseyside lose Liverpool and the Sefton Franchise, will they close their Head Office on Ormskirk Road and move the Welsh operation to new offices in Wrexham or Llandudno?

[gka472l]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot
All up to 82427 (except 82417/9/21) now in service, with 82426/7 making their debut today......

[507022]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(Today 15:01)chris-s Wrote:  Don't forget Gillmoss and green Lane are 1 bid so you could see routes moving between the 2depots. Will be interesting if stagecoach win the green Lane and gillmoss tranche and having st helens too

Has a date been set yet for the announcement of who’s won this franchise?

[MTL0201]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot
All the 14s will likely be operated by Gillmoss, as will the 898/899

[Squire of the Gate]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot
Saw AD E40EV / E400EV SN26XXF & SN26XXG on delivery on Mon 15th Jun.
I presumed they are the ex 25 plate ones from AD at Falkirk?