Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

[motormayhem1]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(28/08/2021 16:35)33109 Wrote:  Seems today (28th august) winsford aren't having a good day at all. Chatted to a driver I know, he said there's 13 drivers apparently not shown up today.

Plus with 2 sets of roadworks in nantwich, 1 lot of which includes 3way temporary lights right outside the bus station means the 84s are in total disarray.

It's like that everywhere at the moment , diamond in bolton are apparently 70 drivers short and come september will be around 91+ short due to drivers walking out.
a lot of drivers are moving over to the wagons due to the new incentives and pay that hgv companies are now offering which you can't blame them to be honest as bus companies are offering rubbish pay deals this time around due to covid-19 and some have gone further than that by removing other benefits.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot
Changes upcoming for Winsford depot and Macc outstation.

Macc 2/2A: Withdrawn
Macc 3/4/5/6/9: Timetable changes
Crewe 6: timetable changes and reduced to hourly Saturday mornings
Macc 10: diverted via Hurdsfield to replace 21/21A. 10A variation withdrawn
Macc 21/21A: Withdrawn
Winsford 31/37. W suffix introduced and some route changes in Wilmslow.
Crewe 38: timetable revised
Crewe - Chester 84: Crewe to Nantwich reduced to every 20 minutes.

Source: https://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/public_t...anges.aspx

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(14/10/2021 10:42)iMarkeh Wrote:  Changes upcoming for Winsford depot and Macc outstation.

Macc 2/2A: Withdrawn
Macc 3/4/5/6/9: Timetable changes
Crewe 6: timetable changes and reduced to hourly Saturday mornings
Macc 10: diverted via Hurdsfield to replace 21/21A. 10A variation withdrawn
Macc 21/21A: Withdrawn
Winsford 31/37. W suffix introduced and some route changes in Wilmslow.
Crewe 38: timetable revised
Crewe - Chester 84: Crewe to Nantwich reduced to every 20 minutes.

Source: https://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/public_t...anges.aspx

I can personally see Arriva eventually ditching Macclesfield routes with the exception of the 38

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(14/10/2021 10:42)iMarkeh Wrote:  some route changes in Wilmslow.

You mean Winsford. Arriva haven't served Wilmslow since they withdrew the 130 registration.

[Nwales Bus]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(14/10/2021 10:42)iMarkeh Wrote:  Changes upcoming for Winsford depot and Macc outstation.

Macc 2/2A: Withdrawn
Macc 3/4/5/6/9: Timetable changes
Crewe 6: timetable changes and reduced to hourly Saturday mornings
Macc 10: diverted via Hurdsfield to replace 21/21A. 10A variation withdrawn
Macc 21/21A: Withdrawn
Winsford 31/37. W suffix introduced and some route changes in Wilmslow.
Crewe 38: timetable revised
Crewe - Chester 84: Crewe to Nantwich reduced to every 20 minutes.

Source: https://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/public_t...anges.aspx

Do we know if Arriva has handed back the contracts early or was it the end of the tender as most of their withdrawn routes were supported by the council

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(14/10/2021 14:47)Nwales Bus Wrote:  Do we know if Arriva has handed back the contracts early or was it the end of the tender as most of their withdrawn routes were supported by the council

That's not correct. The only Cheshire East contracted services around Macclesfield are 19 (High Peak), 88 & 130 (D&G Bus) and 391/392 (Go Goodwins.) All Arriva get from Cheshire East on their Macc routes is reimbursement for bus passes. There were some evening contracted services on some of those routes in the past but funding for those was axed a couple of years ago.

I'm pretty sure D&G have most, if not all, of the contracted work around Crewe. Arriva don't usually bid low for contracted work meaning they lost a lot of it when GHA and D&G started bidding for Cheshire East contracts.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot
More changes but not as well publicised as it's CWACC side.

Northwich - Winsford 29 is withdrawn
Northwich - Rudheath 2 is withdrawn.
Northwich - Winsford X29 renumbered to X31

Northwich 1 and 4 have route and timetable variations (could one of these run 'through' Northwich and replace the 2?)

New route in Winsford which runs from the industrial estate, back to the industrial estate, route 7. No further details on the service though.


Possibly the 29 is being replaced by the variations on the 31 and 37.

[Redmikey]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot
The details of the changes are here.

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...t-and-west

It seems like the town routes are going to be more circuitous and the interurban routes more direct.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot
Notice D&G are changing the 82 from the same date as Arriva are starting running the new through 1 Weaverham-Northwich-Rudheath service. It will mean D&G 82 services will run 5 minutes ahead of one of the 1 services and they will have a shorter dwell time at Watling Street in the Rudheath direction and a longer one in the Chester direction.

The Sunday service (run by D&G) is also being revised to match the through route on the Mon-Sat (Arriva) service.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(29/10/2021 13:00)Redmikey Wrote:  The details of the changes are here.

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...t-and-west

It seems like the town routes are going to be more circuitous and the interurban routes more direct.

Some good and some not so good changes there.

Northwich locals I agree with in part. Shame about the 4 going around the world for Leftwich but it makes sense for the times. Good to see the housing developments served.


31/37 - Meh. Some good, some bad. Good that some areas get faster journeys but not as good seeing the frequencies drop such as Wharton, Moulton and Davenham. One thing that I think I would change is the 37s so that the Sandbach terminator goes to Northwich as per current. Just as not many people seem to want to go end to end and it would prevent some delays and make the round trip significantly shorter so delays are more contained (given the 31 and 37 seem to interwork.).

7/7A - Good to see the improved links but shame about the frequency and having layover in the industrial estate. You'd think that they would put the layover somewhere nicer for passengers or, I think I would possibly run Winsford station to Winsford Library via the industrial estate and Wharton both directions then start the circulars west of the town centre. Or run up Crook Lane rather than Station Road so Wharton doesn't completely drop from 3bph with long distance links to 1 bus per hour local run (and another bus per hour if you don't mind sitting around the industrial estate for 6 minutes).