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GMCA Proposed Routes
The Greater Manchester Combined Authority has launched another constatulation about the future of the buses in Greater Manchester and there is a route list in the document which I have found very interesting has a number of the recent changes to the network looks set to be reversed under these new proposals. Manchester Routes Manchester to Brookhouse/Cadishead Manchester City Centre - Eccles - Brookhouse Manchester City Centre - Trafford Centre - Cadishead Manchester City Centre - Salford Royal Hospital - Cadishead Routes via Northenden & Wythenshawe Manchester City Centre - Northenden - Sale Manchester City Centre - Northenden - Timperley Manchester City Centre - Northenden - Wythenshawe Manchester City Centre - Wythenshawe - Wythenshawe Hospital Manchester City Centre - Wythenshawe - Manchester Airport Routes to Withington Manchester City Centre - Withington Manchester City Centre - Withington - Airport Routes to East and West Didsbury and Onwards Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury - Reddish Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury - Woodford Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury - Stockport Manchester City Centre - University - East Didsbury Manchester City Centre - Univerisity - West Didsbury Manchester City Centre - West Didsbury Routes via Moston Manchester City Centre - Moston - Higher Blackley Manchester City Centre - Moston - Oldham Manchester City Centre - Moston - Alkrington Manchester City Centre - Moston - Crumpsall Manchester City Centre - Moston - Middleton Manchester City Centre - NMGH - Middleton Manchester - Greengate Routes via Middleton & Routes to Rochdale Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Heywood Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Norden Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Bury Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Rochdale Manchester City Centre - Chadderton - Rochdale Manchester City Centre - Shaw - Rochdale Routes to Flixton/Partington Manchester City Centre - Hulme - Stretford - Flixton Manchester City Centre - Davyhulme - Flixton Manchester City Centre - Urmston - Flixton Manchester City Centre - Urmston - Flixton - Partington Manchester City Centre - Stretford - Urmston - Partington Routes to Stockport and Hazel Grove Manchester City Centre - University - Stockport - Hazel Grove Manchester City Centre - Stockport - Hazel Grove Manchester City Centre - Longsight - Green End - Stockport Manchester City Centre - Reddish - Stockport Manchester City Centre - Ladybarn - Stockport Circulars Manchester City Centre - Spinningfields Circular Manchester City Centre - Victoria Circular Manchester City Centre - NMGH Circular Piccadilly - Victoria Circular Routes to Tameside Manchester City Centre - Hyde - Hattersley Manchester City Centre - Dane Bank - Denton Manchester City Centre - Denton - Gee Cross Manchester City Centre - Town Lane - Gee Cross Manchester City Centre - Droylsden - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Clayton - Droylsden - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Littlemoss - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Clayton - Hartshead - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Openshaw - Ashton - Stalybridge Manchester City Centre - Dukinfield - Stalybridge Manchester City Centre - Stalybridge Manchester City Centre - Audenshaw - Dukinfield Routes to Trafford Centre Manchester City Centre - Old Trafford - Trafford Centre Manchester City Centre - Trafford Bar - Trafford Centre Manchester City Centre - Trafford Centre Routes to Altrincham/Sale Manchester City Centre - Sale - Altrincham Routes via Salford areas Manchester City Centre - Salford Shopping Centre - Swinton Manchester City Centre - Eccles - Worsley Manchester City Centre - Walkden - Logistics North Routes to Bolton Manchester City Centre - Little Hulton - Bolton Manchester City Centre - Little Hulton - Farnworth Manchester City Centre - Farnworth - Bolton Manchester City Centre - Pendlebury - Bolton Routes toward Oldham & Hollinwood Manchester City Centre - Oldham Manchester City Centre - Oldham - Rushcroft Manchester City Centre - Newton Heath - Hollinwood Manchester City Centre - Failsworth - Oldham Manchester City Centre - Uppermill - Carrcote Manchester - Oldham - Uppermill - Standage Routes to Chorlton Manchester City Centre - Alexandra Park - Chorlton Manchester City Centre - Brook's Bar - Chorlton Manchester City Centre - Chorlton - Sale Routes to Bury Manchester City Centre - Pilsworth - Bury Manchester City Centre - Prestwich - Bury Manchester City Centre - Unsworth - Bury Manchester City Centre - Radcliffe - Bury Manchester City Centre - Whitefield - Bury Manchester City Centre - Higher Broughton - Simister Cross City Routes & Leigh Services Manchester City Centre - Leigh - Bryn MRI - Manchester City Centre - Tyldesley - Leigh MRI - Manchester City Centre - Tyldesley - Atherton MRI - Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Langley Salford Quays - Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
Is this an aspiration for the routes in and out of the city centre, meaning Arriva's 263 or Stagecoach's X50 would remain exactly how they are or is this what they are proposing would replace the existing routes as part of a franchise system? The one thing that's obvious from that list is all routes start and end in Greater Manchester. There's nothing like the 184 Huddersfield-Manchester on that list. |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
So looks like there is no plan to re-introduce a direct service to Wigan (only town of reasonable size not connected to Manchester by bus). Also as Knutstransport has said, no mention of cross boundary services. |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
(02/12/2020 17:14)knutstransport Wrote: Is this an aspiration for the routes in and out of the city centre, meaning Arriva's 263 or Stagecoach's X50 would remain exactly how they are or is this what they are proposing would replace the existing routes as part of a franchise system? I think these are the routes proposed to replace the existing routes as part of the franchise system. With the 184 it looks like it being curtailed to Standage but that might be a loop up Huddersfield road and down standage road. I will get rest of the routes up later tonight as this is only the city centre routes I have collated together with Bury, Bolton, Rochdale, Middleton, Oldham and Tameside still to come. I have not bothered reading all the 100-page document has it full of waffle and jargon. |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
It would be good if you could edit the OP to add the consultation link so people can comment on it. |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
How I would change it Manchester Routes Manchester to Brookhouse/Cadishead Manchester City Centre - Eccles - Brookhouse Manchester City Centre - Trafford Centre - Cadishead Manchester City Centre - Salford Royal Hospital - Cadishead How come running buses past Eccles? turn buses at Eccles and try push Metrolink for people past Eccles by using a low cost small bus Eccles local bus network Routes via Northenden & Wythenshawe Manchester City Centre - Northenden - Sale Manchester City Centre - Northenden - Timperley Manchester City Centre - Northenden - Wythenshawe Manchester City Centre - Wythenshawe - Wythenshawe Hospital Manchester City Centre - Wythenshawe - Manchester Airport Same again lots of buses running into Manchester that could just feed into Metrolink with just 1 route going into Manchester. with you ramping that up at peak. Routes to Withington Manchester City Centre - Withington Manchester City Centre - Withington - Airport Maybe Manchester to Withington should be pulled with the universities running own network as fares should go up to full price as it would not be right to offer cheap fares. Routes to East and West Didsbury and Onwards Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury - Reddish Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury - Woodford Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury - Stockport Manchester City Centre - University - East Didsbury Manchester City Centre - Univerisity - West Didsbury Manchester City Centre - West Didsbury Lots of the 42 routes should be moved onto 50 route with same as the 43 with Manchester to Univerisity -Didsbury be run by the universities Routes via Moston Manchester City Centre - Moston - Higher Blackley Manchester City Centre - Moston - Oldham Manchester City Centre - Moston - Alkrington Manchester City Centre - Moston - Crumpsall Manchester City Centre - Moston - Middleton Manchester City Centre - NMGH - Middleton Manchester - Greengate not much you can do with this area Routes via Middleton & Routes to Rochdale Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Heywood Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Norden Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Bury Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Rochdale Manchester City Centre - Chadderton - Rochdale Manchester City Centre - Shaw - Rochdale I would also add a Manchester City Centre to Chadderton then Oldham and would drop Royton to Rochdale and would add Oldham to Middleton then Salford Routes to Flixton/Partington Manchester City Centre - Hulme - Stretford - Flixton Manchester City Centre - Davyhulme - Flixton Manchester City Centre - Urmston - Flixton Manchester City Centre - Urmston - Flixton - Partington Manchester City Centre - Stretford - Urmston - Partington Routes to Stockport and Hazel Grove Manchester City Centre - University - Stockport - Hazel Grove Manchester City Centre - Stockport - Hazel Grove Manchester City Centre - Longsight - Green End - Stockport Manchester City Centre - Reddish - Stockport Manchester City Centre - Ladybarn - Stockport Circulars Manchester City Centre - Spinningfields Circular Manchester City Centre - Victoria Circular Manchester City Centre - NMGH Circular Piccadilly - Victoria Circular Routes to Tameside Manchester City Centre - Hyde - Hattersley Manchester City Centre - Dane Bank - Denton Manchester City Centre - Denton - Gee Cross Manchester City Centre - Town Lane - Gee Cross Manchester City Centre - Droylsden - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Clayton - Droylsden - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Littlemoss - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Clayton - Hartshead - Ashton Manchester City Centre - Openshaw - Ashton - Stalybridge Manchester City Centre - Dukinfield - Stalybridge Manchester City Centre - Stalybridge Manchester City Centre - Audenshaw - Dukinfield Routes to Trafford Centre Manchester City Centre - Old Trafford - Trafford Centre Manchester City Centre - Trafford Bar - Trafford Centre Manchester City Centre - Trafford Centre the buses to Trafford Centre should be run down to try move people to Metrolink Routes to Altrincham/Sale Manchester City Centre - Sale - Altrincham Routes via Salford areas Manchester City Centre - Salford Shopping Centre - Swinton Manchester City Centre - Eccles - Worsley Manchester City Centre - Walkden - Logistics North Routes to Bolton Manchester City Centre - Little Hulton - Bolton Manchester City Centre - Little Hulton - Farnworth Manchester City Centre - Farnworth - Bolton Manchester City Centre - Pendlebury - Bolton Routes toward Oldham & Hollinwood Manchester City Centre - Oldham Manchester City Centre - Oldham - Rushcroft Manchester City Centre - Newton Heath - Hollinwood Manchester City Centre - Failsworth - Oldham Manchester City Centre - Uppermill - Carrcote Manchester - Oldham - Uppermill - Standage Most buses turned at Oldham or Hollingwood to feed into metrolink with a Manchester to Oldham bus every 30 mins each route with more peak buses Routes to Chorlton Manchester City Centre - Alexandra Park - Chorlton Manchester City Centre - Brook's Bar - Chorlton Manchester City Centre - Chorlton - Sale Routes to Bury Manchester City Centre - Pilsworth - Bury Manchester City Centre - Prestwich - Bury Manchester City Centre - Unsworth - Bury Manchester City Centre - Radcliffe - Bury Manchester City Centre - Whitefield - Bury Manchester City Centre - Higher Broughton - Simister Cross City Routes & Leigh Services Manchester City Centre - Leigh - Bryn MRI - Manchester City Centre - Tyldesley - Leigh MRI - Manchester City Centre - Tyldesley - Atherton MRI - Manchester City Centre - Middleton - Langley Salford Quays - Manchester City Centre - East Didsbury [/quote] |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
Here are the routes proposed for Leigh & Wigan Leigh Area Services Higher Folds - Leigh - Wigan Leigh - Golborne - Wigan Leigh - Castle Hill - Hindley - Wigan Leigh - Hindley - Wigan Leigh - Boothstown - Trafford Centre Leigh - Boothstown - Bolton Leigh - Middlebrook - Bolton Leigh - Hag Fold - Atherton Leigh - Atherton - Bolton Leigh - Atherton - Hag Fold Leigh - Atherton - Westhoughton - Horwich Leigh - Crankwood Leigh - Tamar Leigh - Westleigh Leigh Hospital Services Leigh Infirmary - Leigh Sports Village Leigh - Tyldesley - Royal Bolton Hospital Leigh Circulars Leigh - Tydlesley Circular Leigh - New Hall Farm - Tydlesley Circular Leigh - Landside Circular Leigh - Lowton Circular Leigh - Pennington Circular Leigh - Pennington - Lowton Circular Leigh - Manchester Services Bryn - Leigh - Manchester City Centre Leigh - Tyldesley - Manchester City Centre - MRI Wigan Area Services Wigan - Leigh - Higher Folds Wigan - Golborne - Leigh Wigan - Hindley - Castle Hill - Leigh Wigan - Hindley - Leigh Wigan - Westhoughton - Bolton Wigan - Westhoughton - Bolton (Verint) Wigan - Middlebrook - Bolton Wigan - Horwich - Bolton Wigan - Shevington Vale Wigan - Platt Bridge Wigan - New Springs Wigan - Ashton in Makerfield - Ashton Heath Wigan - Standish Wigan - Boothstown - Trafford Centre[/u] Wigan Circulars Wigan - Shevington Moor Circular Wigan - Standish Circular Wigan - Castle Hill Circular Wigan - Beech Hill Circular Wigan - Kitt Green Circular Wigan - Highfield Grange Circular |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
The document is here if anyone wants to read it: https://greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/medi...cument.pdf. Details and survey are here: https://www.gmconsult.org/strategy-team/...sultation/ I have a feeling the list of routes is just the existing routes in Greater Manchester, probably from around the time bus franchising was first proposed. Probably around end of 2019. It would suggest that some of the cross-county routes would come under the franchising system while others wouldn't. I would have thought that even though the Greater Manchester section of the route is mentioned, the services would continue outside of the region to their current destination (certainly would be surprised if they terminated the 184 at the border, as there would be no easy way of turning buses around without going into West Yorkshire). I think it's a case of that if the service is operated from a depot within Greater Manchester and/or is not funded by another authority (e.g. Cheshire East Council, Lancashire County Council etc), it will be included in the franchising proposals. The cross-county routes mentioned:
The cross-county routes not mentioned:
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
(02/12/2020 20:35)SF07 Wrote: The document is here if anyone wants to read it: https://greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/medi...cument.pdf. Details and survey are here: https://www.gmconsult.org/strategy-team/...sultation/ Yes, this looks like the list that was published in the consultation document in Autumn 2019, I have a copy of that document and at a quick look it is identical. I think it is a list of all services to be included in the scheme as they were in 2019. |
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RE: GMCA Proposed Routes
Always astounds me that there is always more Tameside routes than Oldham routes, considering Oldham is the biggest town in the conurbation. |
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