Arriva and DB for Sale

[Mrboo]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale

(28/03/2019 13:59)gilesbus1 Wrote:  It doesn't really say a lot but definitely one to watch, the question to ask though is if Arriva is floated on the Stock Exchange, which one will it be floated on? The London or the Berlin? and what share holding will Deutsche Bahn keep? Guess its all a big open question, at least it looks like the intention is to keep it altogether, maybe if its sorted quickly it could benefit from FirstGroups disarray by maybe acquiring something in the South West or Scotland were Arriva has nothing, should the situation at FirstGroup get worse and they have to sell the hole lot off in a piecemeal basis to settle debts. Other smaller operator groups might also fit nicely as well into the puzzle.

It would be London as their Head office is in UK or that would mean lots of issues I would think.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale
Arriva is still registered to an address in Sunderland as a British business so it will be floated on the London stock market if it is floated

[motormayhem1]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale
Noticed this on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/664925570/posts...979435571/

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale

(14/04/2019 11:42)motormayhem1 Wrote:  Noticed this on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/664925570/posts...979435571/

Whatever it was it's either been deleted or is only available to people who have joined closed groups.

[1466]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale
Probably referring to this
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mark...-sale.html

[Barney]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale

(14/04/2019 14:20)1466 Wrote:  Probably referring to this
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mark...-sale.html

Was this published on 1st April? The dogs in the street know that since 1986 commercial bus operation in the UK has been on free-market basis that demands competition amongst operators, especially the big groups. When Arriva bought MTL in 2000 is was compelled to sell-off Gillmoss depot to ensure that it did not have a monopoly within Liverpool.

As far as I am aware, these rules on monopolies still apply so it would debar Stagecoach from purchasing any Arriva subsidiary where Stagecoach already has a presence and that rules out Merseyside, Manchester, the North East and Yorkshire.

[busesdotorg1920x]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale

(14/04/2019 16:55)Barney Wrote:  Was this published on 1st April? The dogs in the street know that since 1986 commercial bus operation in the UK has been on free-market basis that demands competition amongst operators, especially the big groups. When Arriva bought MTL in 2000 is was compelled to sell-off Gillmoss depot to ensure that it did not have a monopoly within Liverpool.

As far as I am aware, these rules on monopolies still apply so it would debar Stagecoach from purchasing any Arriva subsidiary where Stagecoach already has a presence and that rules out Merseyside, Manchester, the North East and Yorkshire.

Not really Yorkshire - Stagecoach do have a presence but it's in a fairly different area of Yorkshire.

[chester285]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale

(14/04/2019 16:55)Barney Wrote:  Was this published on 1st April? The dogs in the street know that since 1986 commercial bus operation in the UK has been on free-market basis that demands competition amongst operators, especially the big groups. When Arriva bought MTL in 2000 is was compelled to sell-off Gillmoss depot to ensure that it did not have a monopoly within Liverpool.

As far as I am aware, these rules on monopolies still apply so it would debar Stagecoach from purchasing any Arriva subsidiary where Stagecoach already has a presence and that rules out Merseyside, Manchester, the North East and Yorkshire.

I think the only way Merseyside could purchase any subsidiaries is if they went more into northwales taking over the likes of wrexham chester rhyl etc

[Raawwwrrr!]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale

(14/04/2019 17:53)chester285 Wrote:  I think the only way Merseyside could purchase any subsidiaries is if they went more into northwales taking over the likes of wrexham chester rhyl etc

Or Runcorn

[motormayhem1]

RE: Arriva and DB for Sale
Stagecoach could purchase a few depots on merseyside so long as they dont operate over a certain percentage of the Market.
North Wales could be a good venture for them too as well as runcorn.