Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Northern's response to driver shortage problems and Andy Burnham's response to their response: https://twitter.com/MayorofGM/status/989892449601499136

In short Northern are saying it's all Network Rail's fault for not reopening Blackpool to Preston on schedule meaning driver training can't happen without cancellations due to driver shortages. Burnham's response asks for better communication and asks how is a repeat of this going to be avoided when electrification of the Bolton line is completed.

However, apparently there's also issues with a rest day agreement between Northern and ASLEF which doesn't get a mention.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
My guess is that it's more the Rest Day Working issue which is causing the problems as I don't recall this level of disruption when Liverpool - Manchester/Wigan was being electrified although unlike the Preston - Blackpool job, electric services were gradually introduced over a number of months, in fact I think there are still some duties booked for diesels on these at present.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
In addition for services from Manchester Airport to Blackpool North, services from York to Blackpool North have resumed.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y5...0/advanced

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
This sounds like a railway yet again being run on overtime.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
New timetables now up on Northern's website. A week earlier than originally published.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(01/05/2018 06:56)St Helens Rider Wrote:  New timetables now up on Northern's website. A week earlier than originally published.

It is also available on Real Time Trains (RTT) website.

[mikestone]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(30/04/2018 13:12)boby32 Wrote:  In addition for services from Manchester Airport to Blackpool North, services from York to Blackpool North have resumed.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y5...0/advanced

Bus replacement now until 11th May.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(02/05/2018 13:53)mikestone Wrote:  Bus replacement now until 11th May.

I was wondering whether Blackpool North will be ready for the full service when the brand new timetable comes into effect.

[wirralbus]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(02/05/2018 13:53)mikestone Wrote:  Bus replacement now until 11th May.

This seems to keep getting pushed backwards the date for normal services.

Seriously though with the line being closed for a length of time some form of route training would have had to take place , not helped by industrial relations problems at both the RMT and ASLEF.

When did Network Rail realise they wasn't going to make the first deadline , seems like in this country electrification cant ever be done on time anymore .

[BlukeMalarkey]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(03/05/2018 10:30)wirralbus Wrote:  This seems to keep getting pushed backwards the date for normal services.

Seriously though with the line being closed for a length of time some form of route training would have had to take place , not helped by industrial relations problems at both the RMT and ASLEF.

When did Network Rail realise they wasn't going to make the first deadline , seems like in this country electrification cant ever be done on time anymore .

The route learning was planned to take place around the original opening date to make sure crew are trained up on the route, unfortunately with it being pushed back there was no available option to route learn as it was under possession until it reopened weeks later. Now, as a result, crew are being trained alongside normal services.