[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 18:39)Sprinterdriver Wrote:  Much more than doors involved. It's about the role of the Guard and having a second safety critical member of staff on the train.
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No to DOO!

SD.

Northern will have two members of staff on board every service but the driver will do door duties on most Northern Connect services, other services will continue as they are at present. It's Merseyrail who will move to London Underground style operation with no second staff member on most services (late services will have additional staff.)

[RedPanda]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 16:56)boby32 Wrote:  That was for 319361

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O7...7/advanced

319218 and 319219

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K9...1/advanced

(28/02/2017 18:38)Sprinterdriver Wrote:  It was, thanks. Been a long day!

SD.

Thought so, thanks

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Apparently theres been some sort of accident at Edge Hill witch has brought the wires down and could take a few days to sort out

[ant17612]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 20:07)RedPanda Wrote:  Thought so, thanks

Long Marston has overhaul facilities but more than likely for store until Wolverton available to take them in unless problems have been found and they don't want them...

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 18:46)Y474 KNF Wrote:  Thanks for the update SD. I wonder why these two units are going to Long Marston (presumably for storage) rather than to Wolverton for refurbishment. Are they being swapped for two different units?

I completely agree with you on "No to DOO" as well!

That I don't know, I always thought that they formed part of the additional 12 units due, time will tell!

SD.

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 19:21)knutstransport Wrote:  Northern will have two members of staff on board every service but the driver will do door duties on most Northern Connect services, other services will continue as they are at present. It's Merseyrail who will move to London Underground style operation with no second staff member on most services (late services will have additional staff.)

I'm not sure how you know that given that the staffing of the new trains for Northern hasn't even been discussed!

SD.

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(28/02/2017 21:27)Dentonian Wrote:  Apart from ticket issuing/checking on maybe 10% of journeys, and controlling the doors from the rear of the train, what does a Guard actually do? If you are sat in the front half of the carriage (or front carriage or front half of rear carriage on double-units) you usually won't be aware there is a guard on board.

Lots of things.

The Guard is responsible for the safety of passengers on the train. If needs be they are in charge of evacuating the train (as has happened at least twice near Liverpool tonight) for instance. If anything happens that results in the Driver being prevented from carrying out their safety duties if the train is involved in an accident then a Guard is trained to carry out anything that may be required, such as contacting the Signal Box and taking steps to prevent a further incident, such as arranging for other lines to be blocked if they are obstructed because of a derailment for example.

Plus safe operation of the trains doors and revenue collection.

SD.

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
The lines from Lime St to Edge Hill to Lime St were bloked after a large amount of debris fell into the cutting, on its way down it knocked out the overhead lines. A couple of trains were stuck for some time, the 1747 Lime St to Euston and the 1640 Manchester Airport to Lime St at least.

It'll take some time to clear up, some comments are suggesting services will be affected tomorrow.

SD.

[507022]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
[quote='Sprinterdriver' pid='103878' dateline='1488322559']
The lines from Lime St to Edge Hill to Lime St were bloked after a large amount of debris fell into the cutting, on its way down it knocked out the overhead lines. A couple of trains were stuck for some time, the 1747 Lime St to Euston and the 1640 Manchester Airport to Lime St at least.

It'll take some time to clear up, some comments are suggesting services will be affected tomorrow

[N271CKB]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Its now being mentioned it could be closed until monday. I would think a number of operators have units stuck at Lime Street too