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As I said, it is just a thought, and since these Enviro400's in question are not exactly needed for what work they once did, it's simply a possibility. Overall it would be an upgrade, of course depending on how many there are, since the Volvo's are 55-07 plate and the Enviro's are 56-08 (effectively averaging newer) I know it probably won't happen but it's a thought :P

And have you never heard 'partner's in crime' used as a figure of speech? That's all it was! Wink

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(07/11/2012 23:16)Benzo Wrote:  
(07/11/2012 23:06)RSTurbo50 Wrote:  What services do First operate out of Cheetham Hill depot?

They run the metroshuttle services 1,2 and 3. 10, 17/18, 27, 52, 53, 54, 63, 64, 67, 74/75, 88/89, 100, 110 and 154. all what I know

Queens Road depot also operate some of the X34 and the Monday-Saturday daytime service on the 33
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First will be introducing new cheaper fares from next Sunday (18 November).

FirstDayOldham and FirstWeekOldham tickets will be valid for use in the Oldham area and between Oldham and Manchester.

FirstDayM60 and FirstWeekM60 tickets will be valid for use within the M60 boundary.

Both tickets will be £3.90 for a day ticket and £13 for a weekly.

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...811&conf=0
http://oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-featu...pping-28pc
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Apologies if this has been covered before, but search is playing silly buggers atm.

What routes does Wigan run? I've got the following;

32 Wigan-Tyldesley-Pendleton-Manchester
33 Wigan-Worsley-Eccles-Manchester (eve/Sun plus some afternoon journeys)
113 Wigan-Standish-Wrightington Hospital (Sundays)
540 Wigan-Hindley-Westhougton-Bolton
593 Wigan-Hindley-Castle Hill-Tamar-Leigh (eve/Sun)
598 Wigan-Hindley-Leigh
600/601 Wigan-Ashton in Makerfield-Golborne-Lowton-Leigh
610 Wigan-Marus Bridge-Hawkley Hall
621/628 Wigan-Kitt Green
625/626 Wigan-Beech Hill
631/2 Wigan -Pemberton
629 Wigan-Platt Bridge-Hindley-Castle Hill (Nightbus)
635 Wigan-Shevington-Standish-Wigan (Nightbus)
658 Wigan-Platt Bridge-Bickershaw-Leigh-Higher Folds
695 Wigan-Orrell Post-Upholland (Nightbus)
X34 Leigh-Astley-Manchester

Any further routes/corrections appreciated, cheers.
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(09/11/2012 20:44)mbonwick Wrote:  Apologies if this has been covered before, but search is playing silly buggers atm.

What routes does Wigan run? I've got the following;

32 Wigan-Tyldesley-Pendleton-Manchester
33 Wigan-Worsley-Eccles-Manchester (eve/Sun plus some afternoon journeys)
113 Wigan-Standish-Wrightington Hospital (Sundays)
540 Wigan-Hindley-Westhougton-Bolton
593 Wigan-Hindley-Castle Hill-Tamar-Leigh (eve/Sun)
598 Wigan-Hindley-Leigh
600/601 Wigan-Ashton in Makerfield-Golborne-Lowton-Leigh
610 Wigan-Marus Bridge-Hawkley Hall
621/628 Wigan-Kitt Green
625/626 Wigan-Beech Hill
631/2 Wigan -Pemberton
629 Wigan-Platt Bridge-Hindley-Castle Hill (Nightbus)
635 Wigan-Shevington-Standish-Wigan (Nightbus)
658 Wigan-Platt Bridge-Bickershaw-Leigh-Higher Folds
695 Wigan-Orrell Post-Upholland (Nightbus)
X34 Leigh-Astley-Manchester

Any further routes/corrections appreciated, cheers.

631/2 wigan - highfield grange not pemberton but pemberton train station via.

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(17/10/2012 14:28)WWH44L Wrote:  Some fleet news for a change:-
My list of Envrios, any updates would be most welcome.

Looking through the thread, I don't think this was ever quite finished off, so here goes:

Bolton 33657, 33673/7, 33691/3/5-7/9, 33700/4/5/7/9-17, 33719-22, 33724-37/9, 33740/2/3/9, 33753
Oldham 33656, 33663, 33668-72/4-6, 33678-90, 33692/4/8, 33701-3/6/8, 33723, 33738, 33741/4-8, 33750-2/4/5

The only one unaccounted for appears to be 33718 - anyone have an allocation for it?
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Thanks for this list Dave. Whether or not 33718 is in service yet, this indicates that the Enviro400s are as good as all in service now. Ironically, I am now likely to be postponing a ride on one from November 24th to December 29th. I often see double-deckers on First's route 22 journeys now, and Volvo B7RLEs less than before.
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(10/11/2012 19:04)Metroline1511 Wrote:  Thanks for this list Dave. Whether or not 33718 is in service yet, this indicates that the Enviro400s are as good as all in service now. Ironically, I am now likely to be postponing a ride on one from November 24th to December 29th. I often see double-deckers on First's route 22 journeys now, and Volvo B7RLEs less than before.

I think since the Enviros have arrived at Bolton and Oldham depots, there has been a case of some routes moving up a step in terms of vehicles used. 22 has definitely become more of a B9TL/Enviro service instead of a B7RLE, 163s have been upgraded from Citaros and B7RLEs to more B9TLs. 348/350 also have gained B9TLs in place of Darts. B7RLEs were used on the 408 today replacing the older Darts that were used.
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Quite surprised to see dart 40372 on the 415, which was given as withdrawn from Bolton lastmonth
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(10/11/2012 21:22)SF07 Wrote:  
(10/11/2012 19:04)Metroline1511 Wrote:  Thanks for this list Dave. Whether or not 33718 is in service yet, this indicates that the Enviro400s are as good as all in service now. Ironically, I am now likely to be postponing a ride on one from November 24th to December 29th. I often see double-deckers on First's route 22 journeys now, and Volvo B7RLEs less than before.

I think since the Enviros have arrived at Bolton and Oldham depots, there has been a case of some routes moving up a step in terms of vehicles used. 22 has definitely become more of a B9TL/Enviro service instead of a B7RLE, 163s have been upgraded from Citaros and B7RLEs to more B9TLs. 348/350 also have gained B9TLs in place of Darts. B7RLEs were used on the 408 today replacing the older Darts that were used.

Ive also noticed standard B9TLs on the 17/18 and noticeable less of them hybrids on them. And the 471 too run full D/D now with the extra B9's from BN
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