QBP Liverpool and Wirral

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RE: QBP Liverpool and Wirral

(18/10/2012 18:20)px55efc Wrote:  

(18/10/2012 17:43)507009 Wrote:  Just to agree with what has been said above, I've used all of the QBPs in peak times now and the worst is the 86 by a country mile. It is simply woefully inadequate in terms of capacity. Arriva buses, as outlined, usually the only choice for most students, are less frequent and departing full throughout the day. I've seen Volvo B7TLs drive past the Liverpool Arts College stop as they are already completely full. It's a desperate situation, and don't get me started on the horrid "summer timetable".

The simple solution is to return the Arriva timetable to every five minutes, admittedly compromising the constant timetable Merseytravel continually boasts about. Stagecoach simply haven't done enough to address the capacity issues. If their allocations were entirely double deckers, it might be different.

I agree. Stagecoach buses on the 86 just dont have the capacity. Smaller darts have replaced slightly larger B10ble's, which have near enough gone anyway. The double deckers on the 86C dont help much, as most students take up the Arrivas.
Reinstating the Arriva service wouldnt compromise much, as the stagecoach buses would just 'fill in the gaps'.

Do the buses on the 86 just qualify for QBP as most routes have brand new buses, not nearly new. (55/06 arr, V/55 stg)

Don't quote me on this for sure but I think the Darts only just qualify for the QBP as they have a Euro 3 ? Engine so the emission's aren't as bad as what would be on a B10B which makes me wonder if re-engineering Tridents was partly to do with the QBP as well as fuel saving . However I agree completely with the comments made, in terms of quality I would much rather have a Renown even though that would
Breach the QBP. When Stagecoach took over GTL I would have expected them to have made the 86 route similar to the Wilmslow Road corridor in Manchester = Double Deck, high Frequency. Turns out I was wrong. I've noted on too many occasions the 86's having to leave 25+ passengers at Myrtle Street because buses are too full, for the QBP to work better not just for the 86 but for all routes involved, frequencies should not have been tampered with neither should have routes been withdrawn like the X11. For Stagecoach to comply with the QBP they should invest in Tri-axle or double deckers. There is no such thing as "routes don't justify deckers in Liverpool" otherwise we wouldn't have had deckers in the Merseybus/Corporation days. In my view of the situation