Hulleys of Baslow

[djb]

RE: Hulleys of Baslow

(06/09/2021 22:43)iMarkeh Wrote:  I disagree. I am looking at it from a passengers perspective, any sort of connection between infrequent services is something which should be looked at.

Tell me where I said about the 257? Because I know that is fine. Sheffield south on the 271/272, yes, you could use some other services but they need more tickets which goes against everything which is being said right now in the industry that people are not wanting to keep purchasing multiple tickets. The 271/272 have awful connections with the 257 or X57 and even if you end up making people change at Bamford between services, the connections there can be just as bad.

50 mins in Ashbourne, I am with you if there are delays but as per the Traffic Commissioners documents, you should be accommodating that and if you don't and it proves to be unreliable you could be liable for fines or conditions attached to the licence etc etc. Even if a bus is always late, passengers use the timetables to judge their journey. 30 minutes isn't so bad. Still plenty of time for delays or whatever but it's a lot less time which people will be sitting around if the bus is ontime.

110/111 may be a DCC timetable, never disputed that. You can put in alternative bids and try to get services changed if you can prove that the pros outweigh the cons and minimise disruption. It's how Stagecoach has been doing things for years. Alternatively, other routes could maybe be adjusted accordingly.


Passengers want cheaper bus travel and better connections, it comes up so often that they want better connections to make the onward journeys. This isn't doable on the Hulleys network for many people and I include multiple examples of that. Not everyone wants to travel just on a single route and as for 'accommodating passenger flows that don't exist'. Do you know why they don't exist currently? Because it's impossible to get people onto buses with the current services. 110/111 to Bakewell for example, your options are multi operator travel or 172. The 172 no longer has any connections with the 110/111. It's about linking up main routes with towns and not making people choose between, extortionate fares or the 2 towns at either end of a route.

From your original post “257 has 75 minute connections with the X57. The 271/272 have 50 minute connections”.
Unless you’re travelling at a very specific time or place, or a Sunday there’s no need to connect with the 272/x57 as the 257 covers the whole route Castleton - Hathersage except Bradwell.

Tbh I think we are not going to agree on this one. The 110/111 is a sparsely populated route between ashbourne and Wirksworth. From wirksworth onwards there are already direct buses to bakewell. Ashbourne itself has direct connections with various towns. And both matlock and ashbourne are bigger than bakewell. If I was in the villages between, apart from Monday’s (market day), I’d be more bothered about a connection to the larger hubs. - derby, Chesterfield, alfreton, maybe leek, than another town.

The 110/111 is timetabled between school runs too. So there’s not much flex.