Northern (Arriva Rail North)

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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(17/12/2019 20:01)mikestone Wrote:  Andy Burnham quoted in today's Guardian again saying that Arrive should be relieved of the franchise as a dire warning to TPE.
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Given that TPE only managed to run four trains from Liverpool to Newcastle yesterday, back to the 1960s level of service, I would suggest they should be fired first.

Well not that long ago almost all Liverpool TPE services went to Scarborough and a change was required for Newcastle.

Didn't TPE have major issues yesterday due to a derailment outside their depot? On the other hand Northern were cancelling services due to not employing enough drivers, errors in rosters and their class 150 trains dropping like dead flies.

Also worth remembering if a TPE service you intend to catch is cancelled then you usually face a shorter wait for the next train then you would if a Northern service is cancelled. Only a few months ago Northern only ran a few trains per day between Lancaster and Manchester. One Saturday when a Windermere service terminated short at Lancaster due to a driver not being available there were a number of people on Northern only tickets and the next Northern service was a few hours away and the guard's response was "You'll have to ask the guard on another operator's service nicely if you can travel on their train."