Liverpool City Centre Traffic Issues

[mr t]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Gillmoss Depot

(13/10/2018 19:47)iMarkeh Wrote:  The more variations you add to a route, the more difficult it is to control. If you have 1 set route and just divert a few buses, it is easier for drivers, passengers and the company. If they did an 82 and 86 via Duke Street. Let's face it, people get confused very easily.

Hanover Street needs sorting ASAP. It should be buses and access only. Have multi use delivery bays/taxi ranks which are only operational at nights and very select times during the day possibly for deliveries. I work out roughly 86 buses use Hanover Street per hour (40 towards L1, 46 towards Elliot Street). Who in their right minds thinks about allowing large delivery trucks, taxis (who generally are a law to themselves) and normal cars on the same 1 lane road. And then to top it all off, a give way at the end which works against the buses.

If Hanover street got sorted properly, the 82s would be put back and save the passengers the hassle of waiting for the 82C.

Hanover Street will get even worse after Xmas when all the 7/14/61/79s are put up and down there as well with the new bus strategy although the 82s outbound are meant to go up Park Lane instead of Hanover.
About 80% of traffic down it is already bus/taxi/coach.
Duke Street as it is is as bad as Hanover of a weekend and evenings especially with all the car parking by the restaurants and past Slater St so when traffic is waiting outbound from the traffic lights at Berry St buses have to wait to get past it can take time during peak times because of the amount of traffic queuing back. Also if Hanover St was to get restricted from the bottom of the lights then the diverted traffic would have to to use Duke St which means even longer queues.

The big problem is there is no way to leave the car park by Tesco other than Hanover St so the cars build up from the lights and have no thought for buses. Plus there is nowhere for taxis to drop off or wait so they park literally anywhere with hotel after hotel and apartments and restaurants after restaurant after pub after pub appearing over the last 5 years, people need dropping or picking up everywhere coz people dont want to walk, all the councils fault - there was also not one taxi rank built when L One built.
There is also 4 roads running down from Berry St towards Hanover which means all that traffic is impossible to stop accessing Hanover. Also on leaving the Centre Hanover towards Lime St there is no alternative routes for the deliveries or cars to use like there is inbound with 4 roads feeding it, and the 5th one which was 2way by the car park blocked for 2 years so far. Central Station and the hotels have no loading bays either so taxis have to wait in the road while loading, as well as loading for all the businesses down there plus all the National Express coaches that have also been made to use it because the council wanted to close the coach station on London Road, so it is virtually impossible for the council to police except for the section inbound from the Adelphi to Church Street, and that is only policed around xmas times.

The council love narrowing roads in Liverpool we have already had Renshaw St & Berry St, Hardman St, Sir Thomas St, Castle ST, Water St, Tithebarn St, Chapel St, Old Hall St, Dale St, North John St - Victoria St starts after Xmas and Lime ST down to 1 lane each way and blocking it in the middle, and then narrowing The Strand and closing Mann Island.
Oh and plus the flyovers are shut for 6 months...so where else is the traffic meant to go!
The council only care about bikes and pedestrians, also dont forget the has also scrapped all the bus lanes, so buses have no chance with this council. Liverpool is the most anti bus place in the country and also has no park & rides must be the only city in the country that doesnt,