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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(08/02/2017 20:55)Dentonian Wrote:  Just going back to this. I must admit I don't know which are which in terms of where units have come from. Tonight's train was a Pacer with 3x2 seating, so does that make it an exMerseytravel one? I *think* the number was 142 012, but can't be sure. There were about 60-70 standees leaving Piccadilly. Would this be classed as overcrowded?

The ex-Merseyrail ones have all the seats in the carriage facing the same direction and have individual seats in a 3+2 formation. On the ex-FNW ones the direction the seats face changes in the middle of the carriage and they have a large bench for seating 3 people on one side and a smaller bench for seating 2 people on the other side.

Yes it would be classed as overcrowded but the time of the service and how long people had to stand for would determine how overcrowded it is. Standing for up to 20 minutes is seen as acceptable at peak times but not at off-peak times.

Also it would only be seen as an issue if that is a typical loading and the service is booked to be operated by a single 142.