Merseyside & Cheshire Service Changes

[cfm146g]

RE: Merseyside & Cheshire Service Changes

(24/03/2021 10:39)knutstransport Wrote:  I think maybe it should be Merseyside and North West Cheshire. The other side of Cheshire there's routes overlapping in to Greater Manchester (42C, 88, 130, 391, 392), Staffordshire and Derbyshire so there could be quite a bit of overlap if you put all Cheshire routes with Merseyside.

Really it should be reduced to the City Region just to include Halton. Beyond that there isn't much to speak of working in from Cheshire [one route from Warrington and a handful going up the Wirral from Chester and Ellesmere Port] which can be counted in because they serve Merseyside. Then the rest of Cheshire taken in its own right.

[Y458 KNF]

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(24/03/2021 13:16)cfm146g Wrote:  Really it should be reduced to the City Region just to include Halton. Beyond that there isn't much to speak of working in from Cheshire [one route from Warrington and a handful going up the Wirral from Chester and Ellesmere Port] which can be counted in because they serve Merseyside. Then the rest of Cheshire taken in its own right.

Its actually 5 routes from Warrington that go into the City Region or Halton 7,32,62,110 & 329

[cfm146g]

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(24/03/2021 14:12)darylyates17 Wrote:  Its actually 5 routes from Warrington that go into the City Region or Halton 7,32,62,110 & 329

Yes but three of those don't go into Merseyside! I'll give you the 329 [there may be one or two Warrington Borough routes scraping over the boundary too FWIW and you didn't mention the X30 but that also is peripheral] but really the influence of "Merseyside" doesn't penetrate so far into Cheshire as to make Cheshire worth combining into this discussion beyond Halton.

[moreton407]

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Crikey!!!!

[SNL 824]

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Never realised the 22 was tendered, thought it had been commercial for years

[motormayhem1]

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(24/03/2021 12:13)darylyates17 Wrote:  Although you do bring up a good point as the 7 isnt showing on the map.

Maybe the 7 isn't showing as it only cuts through a small section of halton and doesn't start or terminate within halton itself.
The 17 serves widnes town centre and terminates at vicarage road but the 7 only skins through the top end basically along the boundaries..

[Valandil]

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(24/03/2021 14:12)darylyates17 Wrote:  Its actually 5 routes from Warrington that go into the City Region or Halton 7,32,62,110 & 329

There's also Warrington's 22 and 22A serving Newton-le-Willows and Earlestown.

[Jack]

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Even the 360 does too very briefly before going into Greater Manchester.

[iMarkeh]

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(25/03/2021 01:05)SNL 824 Wrote:  Never realised the 22 was tendered, thought it had been commercial for years

It was commercial under Avon. Then Stagecoach ran it commercially but they messed with the route a lot which killed the demand and ran it from Rock Ferry (which is not only higher wages but also costs for the shuttle car and driver). Finally Stagecoach put no care or attention into the route (the 22 is one where a transdev stlye branding, advertising and regular driver would do wonders for passenger numbers). Due to all of that and Stagecoach dropped it and it went out to tender. Stagecoach won the tender so it continued, now the tender went back out and Happy Als have won it.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Merseyside & Cheshire Service Changes
Looking at Merseytravel's changes for next week, it looks like with some routes someone hasn't done some proof reading and some of the new timetables appear to be closely guarded state secrets.