Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

[iMarkeh]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots
Some very interesting changes ahead. Here's a list of all the changes due to happen from both Rock Ferry and Chester depots from September 2nd. Timetables are also put in if they are online. Hopefully this provides a good summary for people. I will edit this post if/when more timetables become online though CWaCC are known for being slow to update the bus and coach database. I don't know how good Merseytravel are at updating it.

• 1 Liverpool - Timetable amendments
  https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/getting-...02018).pdf
• 5 Huntington - Extended to Wrexham General Train Station (via Farndon, Holt and Wrexham Bus Station) every 90 mins. Earlier bus as well (Judging by timings this is a placement for the 06:10 53). Also an extra Sunday trip added at 18:44 into Chester. For some reason, it looks like Holt village has no services in the change (Could this be to do with the bridge closure causing issues? I doubt this will remain like this and if it is omitting Holt, it will probably go back when the bridge reopens)
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-08
  Sun https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-09
• 5 Mold - Retimed. giving between 2 and 7 minutes longer per journey. Also finally fixed the very daft timings between Cheshire Oaks and Queensferry Asda which are currently (in my opinion) the cause of most delays on this service
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-08
• 5A Stanney Grange - Timetable amendments due to the interworking with route 5
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5a-ellesme...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5a-ellesme...2018-09-08
• 8 Pipers Ash - Timetable amendments. (CWaCC says extra trips to/from Guilden Sutton but some others have told me this is a incorrect)
  No timetable yet
• 9 Pipers Ash - Timetable amendments (CWaCC says extra trips to/from Guilden Sutton but some others have told me this is a incorrect). Apparently it will be interworking with the 51 instead of the 53 due to timing issues.
  No timetable yet
• 16 Saltney - Reverting to pre-summer timetable.
  No timetable yet
• 23 Mollington - NEW SERVICE 2 return, hail and ride trips from Chester to Mollington
  No timetable yet
• 38 West Kirby - Timetable amendments
  https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/getting-...02018).pdf
• 51 Plas Newton - Timetable amendments. Apparently interworking with route 9 instead of 53 from September.
  No timetable yet
• G3 Blacon-Greyhound Park - Re-routing via Shelley Road and Saxon Way. No longer serves Hartford Way. Also minor timetable amendments.
  No timetable online or details online however I bought the registration and found out the exact changes.
• 605 Bishops School Bus - Extended to Mollington
  https://bustimes.org/services/nw_02_scme_605_2
• X2 Runcorn - Timetable amendments
  https://www3.halton.gov.uk/Pages/publict...eX2NEW.pdf
• X8 Liverpool - Timetable amendment to Saturday 16:04 from Liverpool. Also 1 extra round trip added on a Sunday 17:45 Chester, 19:10 Liverpool
  https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/getting-...02018).pdf
  

[chester285]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(01/08/2018 23:34)iMarkeh Wrote:  Some very interesting changes ahead. Here's a list of all the changes due to happen from both Rock Ferry and Chester depots from September 2nd. Timetables are also put in if they are online. Hopefully this provides a good summary for people. I will edit this post if/when more timetables become online though CWaCC are known for being slow to update the bus and coach database. I don't know how good Merseytravel are at updating it.

• 1 Liverpool - Timetable amendments
  No timetable yet
• 2 Liverpool - Timetable amendments
  No timetable yet
• 5 Huntington - Extended to Wrexham General Train Station (via Farndon, Holt and Wrexham Bus Station) every 90 mins. Earlier bus as well (Judging by timings this is a placement for the 06:10 53). Also an extra Sunday trip added at 18:44 into Chester. For some reason, it looks like Holt village has no services in the change (Could this be to do with the bridge closure causing issues? I doubt this will remain like this and if it is omitting Holt, it will probably go back when the bridge reopens)
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-08
  Sun https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-09
• 5 Mold - Retimed. giving between 2 and 7 minutes longer per journey. Also finally fixed the very daft timings between Cheshire Oaks and Queensferry Asda which are currently (in my opinion) the cause of most delays on this service
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-08
• 5A Stanney Grange - Timetable amendments due to the interworking with route 5
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5a-ellesme...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5a-ellesme...2018-09-08
• 8 Pipars Ash - Timetable amendments. (CWaCC says extra trips to/from Guilden Sutton but some others have told me this is a incorrect)
  No timetable yet
• 9 Pipars Ash - Timetable amendments (CWaCC says extra trips to/from Guilden Sutton but some others have told me this is a incorrect). Apparently it will be interworking with the 51 instead of the 53 due to timing issues.
  No timetable yet
• 16 Saltney - Reverting to pre-summer timetable.
  No timetable yet
• 23 Mollington - NEW SERVICE 2 return, hail and ride trips from Chester to Mollington
  No timetable yet
• 38 West Kirby - Timetable amendments. No information online except TC N+Ps
  No timetable yet
• 51 Plas Newton - Timetable amendments. Apparently interworking with route 9 instead of 53 from September.
  No timetable yet
• G3 Blacon-Greyhound Park - Re-routing via Shelley Road and Saxon Way. No longer serves Hartford Way. Also minor timetable amendments.
  No timetable online or details online however I bought the registration and found out the exact changes.
• 605 Bishops School Bus - Extended to Mollington
  https://bustimes.org/services/nw_02_scme_605_2
• X2 Runcorn - Timetable amendments
  No timetable yet
• X8 Liverpool - Timetable amendments including extra trips on Sundays & Bank Holidays
  No Timetable yet
  

Don't you mean Pipers Ash?

[iMarkeh]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(02/08/2018 16:48)chester285 Wrote:  Don't you mean Pipers Ash?

They go there as well on the way Pipars Ash

[busdude]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(01/08/2018 23:34)iMarkeh Wrote:  Some very interesting changes ahead. Here's a list of all the changes due to happen from both Rock Ferry and Chester depots from September 2nd. Timetables are also put in if they are online. Hopefully this provides a good summary for people. I will edit this post if/when more timetables become online though CWaCC are known for being slow to update the bus and coach database. I don't know how good Merseytravel are at updating it.

• 1 Liverpool - Timetable amendments
  No timetable yet
• 2 Liverpool - Timetable amendments
  No timetable yet
• 5 Huntington - Extended to Wrexham General Train Station (via Farndon, Holt and Wrexham Bus Station) every 90 mins. Earlier bus as well (Judging by timings this is a placement for the 06:10 53). Also an extra Sunday trip added at 18:44 into Chester. For some reason, it looks like Holt village has no services in the change (Could this be to do with the bridge closure causing issues? I doubt this will remain like this and if it is omitting Holt, it will probably go back when the bridge reopens)
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-08
  Sun https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-09
• 5 Mold - Retimed. giving between 2 and 7 minutes longer per journey. Also finally fixed the very daft timings between Cheshire Oaks and Queensferry Asda which are currently (in my opinion) the cause of most delays on this service
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5-chester-...2018-09-08
• 5A Stanney Grange - Timetable amendments due to the interworking with route 5
  M-F https://bustimes.org/services/5a-ellesme...2018-09-03
  Sat https://bustimes.org/services/5a-ellesme...2018-09-08
• 8 Pipers Ash - Timetable amendments. (CWaCC says extra trips to/from Guilden Sutton but some others have told me this is a incorrect)
  No timetable yet
• 9 Pipers Ash - Timetable amendments (CWaCC says extra trips to/from Guilden Sutton but some others have told me this is a incorrect). Apparently it will be interworking with the 51 instead of the 53 due to timing issues.
  No timetable yet
• 16 Saltney - Reverting to pre-summer timetable.
  No timetable yet
• 23 Mollington - NEW SERVICE 2 return, hail and ride trips from Chester to Mollington
  No timetable yet
• 38 West Kirby - Timetable amendments. No information online except TC N+Ps
  No timetable yet
• 51 Plas Newton - Timetable amendments. Apparently interworking with route 9 instead of 53 from September.
  No timetable yet
• G3 Blacon-Greyhound Park - Re-routing via Shelley Road and Saxon Way. No longer serves Hartford Way. Also minor timetable amendments.
  No timetable online or details online however I bought the registration and found out the exact changes.
• 605 Bishops School Bus - Extended to Mollington
  https://bustimes.org/services/nw_02_scme_605_2
• X2 Runcorn - Timetable amendments
  No timetable yet
• X8 Liverpool - Timetable amendments including extra trips on Sundays & Bank Holidays
  No Timetable yet
  

The new 1/2, 38 and X8 timetables have been on Merseytravel for a few days now

[iMarkeh]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(03/08/2018 11:46)busdude Wrote:  The new 1/2, 38 and X8 timetables have been on Merseytravel for a few days now

Wow. they put timetables up before they have even done the service changes. Merseytravel never fails to surprise me. Thanks for letting me know. I have just edited the post and updated the links.

[mr t]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(03/08/2018 12:15)iMarkeh Wrote:  Wow. they put timetables up before they have even done the service changes. Merseytravel never fails to surprise me. Thanks for letting me know. I have just edited the post and updated the links.

Merseytravel always do start a month before

[knutstransport]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots
Stagecoach have registered a 41C Chester to Waverton service which is showing as 'not supported by subsides' on the registration.

[wirralbus]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(08/08/2018 15:56)knutstransport Wrote:  Stagecoach have registered a 41C Chester to Waverton service which is showing as 'not supported by subsides' on the registration.

Are these depot journeys , instead of dead mileage

[CTL45]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(08/08/2018 16:54)wirralbus Wrote:  Are these depot journeys , instead of dead mileage

A couple of journeys to compensate in part for the loss of the C56 service along the Waverton to Boughton Heath section.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Stagecoach MCSL - Chester & Wirral Depots

(08/08/2018 18:20)CTL45 Wrote:  A couple of journeys to compensate in part for the loss of the C56 service along the Waverton to Boughton Heath section.

What the actual heck? All that for 4 bus stops. I think that will be a partial coverup. It will be the 'bus' duty on the staff shuttles (normally there is the minibus plus a bus on shuttles). While it is on driver shuttles, give it a reason to make 50p. (plus earn 30% fuel rebate which you don't get running dead). It is better and saves money running in service even if it takes no normal passengers. It was was actually to compensate for the loss of the C56, it would start in Saighton as the post office and primary school aren't served. The only stop Saighton now has is the unmarked stop at Abbey Gate College which most drivers don't know about. (I know due to the bus and coach database and also transport-points.co.uk which logs every single bus stop whether used or not).