Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[Metroline1511]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(15/12/2017 09:43)knutstransport Wrote:  Major disruption in Stockport area yesterday afternoon/early evening. Apparently originally caused by a broken down freight train but made much worse after a signalling mistake almost caused a 323 to crash in to a Voyager, end result no southbound services for an extended period, which later led to no northbound trains for an extended period on many lines due to return workings also being cancelled.

I was caught out at Liverpool Lime Street as a result. The 15.52 (IIRC) EMT train to Norwich was cancelled as a result of this incident. Quite why it could not have been rerouted via Brinnington or Hyde Central line is beyond me.

[Metroline1511]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(24/12/2017 13:00)knutstransport Wrote:  Think it's because guards don't have to work Sundays and a lot have chosen not to work today.

It therefore seems common sense to have a 5 days in 7 rota or have trains workable in opo mode. Mind you, this is what they are striking against.

[N271CKB]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Major disruption today at Lime Street due to overhead wire issues

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(06/01/2018 20:09)Metroline1511 Wrote:  It therefore seems common sense to have a 5 days in 7 rota or have trains workable in opo mode. Mind you, this is what they are striking against.

Well looking at the problem solely from a business prospective no requirement for a guard on board reduces the chance of cancellations and delays. However, my understanding is the Northern DCO plan is for the new trains to be operated by a driver and an assistant with the driver doing all the operational work and the assistant focusing on revenue and customer service (including assisting disabled passengers), opposed to the plan being to run services with just a driver on board.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(07/01/2018 09:35)N271CKB Wrote:  Major disruption today at Lime Street due to overhead wire issues

According to Northern journey check, Liverpool - Preston is cancelled, Liverpool - Wigan are terminating at Huyton, Liverpool - Manchester Airport are terminating at Edge Hill and Liverpool - Manchester Oxford Road are terminating at Liverpool South Parkway.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(07/01/2018 10:29)St Helens Rider Wrote:  According to Northern journey check, Liverpool - Preston is cancelled, Liverpool - Wigan are terminating at Huyton, Liverpool - Manchester Airport are terminating at Edge Hill and Liverpool - Manchester Oxford Road are terminating at Liverpool South Parkway.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_di...80987.aspx

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Strange arrangement this evening on Liverpool - Preston service - journeys from Preston are showing up as terminating at Edge Hill but journeys towards Preston are showing as starting from Huyton.

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(07/01/2018 20:19)St Helens Rider Wrote:  Strange arrangement this evening on Liverpool - Preston service - journeys from Preston are showing up as terminating at Edge Hill but journeys towards Preston are showing as starting from Huyton.

Now terminating at/starting at Edge Hill for the remainder of the day,last train that started at Huyton was the 1947 Lime St-Preston

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
All lines now reopened at 1am

[Sprinterdriver]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(07/01/2018 09:57)knutstransport Wrote:  Well looking at the problem solely from a business prospective no requirement for a guard on board reduces the chance of cancellations and delays. However, my understanding is the Northern DCO plan is for the new trains to be operated by a driver and an assistant with the driver doing all the operational work and the assistant focusing on revenue and customer service (including assisting disabled passengers), opposed to the plan being to run services with just a driver on board.

The big sticking point is that Northern will not guarantee a second person on every train, so there is the chance services will run with just a Driver on.

SD.