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RE: Arriva Trains Wales - SNL 824 - 25/03/2013 20:36

(25/03/2013 20:23)507022 Wrote:  
(24/03/2013 23:08)First Class Wrote:  
(24/03/2013 20:42)507 mad Wrote:  just been announced that bubblecar 121032 has been withdrawn by arriva and will act as a donor for sister company chiltern railways. it has been withdrawn because of the lack of effort from the unit. the route will now be run a class 153.

It was withdrawn because it failed and the parts required to get it moving again cost too much money to make it worth fixing. As a result, the parts that are still serviceable will pass to Chiltern for their Aylesbury shuttle.

Whilst a Class 153 may be used, it is not set in stone. Class 142/143/150 units appear regularly on the very short line between Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay, (and a full ticket check still gets done!). The short line gets whatever is available, bar 158/175s.

The line would be absolutely ideal for a Class 139. Short, self contained, high frequency operation - and would free up a unit for the Valleys, or even further afield.

What's a class 139? Never heard of that one!
If they're still in service, there's 2 of them - modern single units - look like across between a Fiat taxi and a light tram. Used on the Stoubridge shuttle by London Midland.


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - First Class - 25/03/2013 20:36

(25/03/2013 20:23)507022 Wrote:  
(24/03/2013 23:08)First Class Wrote:  
(24/03/2013 20:42)507 mad Wrote:  just been announced that bubblecar 121032 has been withdrawn by arriva and will act as a donor for sister company chiltern railways. it has been withdrawn because of the lack of effort from the unit. the route will now be run a class 153.

It was withdrawn because it failed and the parts required to get it moving again cost too much money to make it worth fixing. As a result, the parts that are still serviceable will pass to Chiltern for their Aylesbury shuttle.

Whilst a Class 153 may be used, it is not set in stone. Class 142/143/150 units appear regularly on the very short line between Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay, (and a full ticket check still gets done!). The short line gets whatever is available, bar 158/175s.

The line would be absolutely ideal for a Class 139. Short, self contained, high frequency operation - and would free up a unit for the Valleys, or even further afield.

What's a class 139? Never heard of that one!

Only 3 exist, 2 of which are with London Midland in Stourbridge.

It is also known as a Parry People Mover.


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - childwallblues - 25/03/2013 21:46

I am surprised that nobody has reported the use yesterday of 67001 + the WAG set on a Footex from Wrexham to Wembley and return.


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - First Class - 25/03/2013 22:42

(25/03/2013 21:46)childwallblues Wrote:  I am surprised that nobody has reported the use yesterday of 67001 + the WAG set on a Footex from Wrexham to Wembley and return.

Ended up going via Crewe and Chester on the return for two reasons:

1) To replace a cancelled service from Crewe-Chester
2) Because of a failed groundframe near Chirk Kronospan

Resulted in a 60 minute delay, on top of it already being later than scheduled due to the football going to pens.
Train formed of 2 x Class 67, top and tail, with the DVT still attached (67001, 67002 & 82306)


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - 507022 - 26/03/2013 00:05

(25/03/2013 20:36)First Class Wrote:  
(25/03/2013 20:23)507022 Wrote:  
(24/03/2013 23:08)First Class Wrote:  It was withdrawn because it failed and the parts required to get it moving again cost too much money to make it worth fixing. As a result, the parts that are still serviceable will pass to Chiltern for their Aylesbury shuttle.

Whilst a Class 153 may be used, it is not set in stone. Class 142/143/150 units appear regularly on the very short line between Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay, (and a full ticket check still gets done!). The short line gets whatever is available, bar 158/175s.

The line would be absolutely ideal for a Class 139. Short, self contained, high frequency operation - and would free up a unit for the Valleys, or even further afield.

What's a class 139? Never heard of that one!

Only 3 exist, 2 of which are with London Midland in Stourbridge.

It is also known as a Parry People Mover.

Thanks to both First Class and SNL824 for the answer


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - childwallblues - 28/03/2013 19:22

(25/03/2013 22:42)First Class Wrote:  
(25/03/2013 21:46)childwallblues Wrote:  I am surprised that nobody has reported the use yesterday of 67001 + the WAG set on a Footex from Wrexham to Wembley and return.

Ended up going via Crewe and Chester on the return for two reasons:

1) To replace a cancelled service from Crewe-Chester
2) Because of a failed groundframe near Chirk Kronospan

Resulted in a 60 minute delay, on top of it already being later than scheduled due to the football going to pens.
Train formed of 2 x Class 67, top and tail, with the DVT still attached (67001, 67002 & 82306)
Did ATW get the authority of the Welsh Government to use the stock as you have previously suggested?


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - First Class - 28/03/2013 21:52

(28/03/2013 19:22)childwallblues Wrote:  
(25/03/2013 22:42)First Class Wrote:  
(25/03/2013 21:46)childwallblues Wrote:  I am surprised that nobody has reported the use yesterday of 67001 + the WAG set on a Footex from Wrexham to Wembley and return.

Ended up going via Crewe and Chester on the return for two reasons:

1) To replace a cancelled service from Crewe-Chester
2) Because of a failed groundframe near Chirk Kronospan

Resulted in a 60 minute delay, on top of it already being later than scheduled due to the football going to pens.
Train formed of 2 x Class 67, top and tail, with the DVT still attached (67001, 67002 & 82306)
Did ATW get the authority of the Welsh Government to use the stock as you have previously suggested?

Yes! In fact, the Welsh Government were particularly insistent that it ran. I believe more than one MP used the service.


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - T42 PVM - 25/04/2013 09:54

can someone help me sort this little issue out, i want to get from newton train station to birimingham train station and i thought i could get a train direct from there but i now know i need to get a train to crewe or something, i dont know, could someone help me please?


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - N271CKB - 25/04/2013 11:00

Best way would be to catch the ATW service from
Newton le willows to Warrington Bank Quay, where theres a 15 min wait for the Birmingham ervice.


RE: Arriva Trains Wales - St Helens Rider - 25/04/2013 11:09

Or could get Northern or ATW to Manchester Piccadilly and link up with the Cross Country service to Birmingham - probably not much difference either way.