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RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 07/10/2015 10:06

Notice yesterday the Liverpool - Preston Service did not run for a few hours in the morning as someone had been hit by a Train


RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 07/10/2015 15:07

If the service is severely late can see the service turning round at Wigan North Western on a 4 minute turnround , otherwise the service runs late all day , with passengers conveyed on the next available service from Wigan to Preston , passengers for Euxton Balshaw Lane and Leyland will be the ones most affected by this .


RE: Northern Rail - St Helens Rider - 07/10/2015 15:53

The service does have some fairly slack timetabling at the Lime Street/South Parkway end though.


RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 07/10/2015 17:46

(07/10/2015 15:53)St Helens Rider Wrote:  The service does have some fairly slack timetabling at the Lime Street/South Parkway end though.

The problem is the double track section from Euxton to Wigan which can make an already late departure from Preston , quite late at Wigan if it has to wait for a Virgin service to pass in both direction before crossing over .


RE: Northern Rail - St Helens Rider - 07/10/2015 18:01

Does not help on some hours that the service is timed identical to a Freight Path. The 1630 from Preston is one example - due at Wigan at 1651 - guaranteed most nights there is a Freight train coming through at this time, thus delaying the Liverpool service (if it isn't delayed already).

Have also noticed on the Wigan - St Helens Central stretch that it tends to only take around 12 minutes but actually timetabled for 15 minutes.


RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 07/10/2015 18:47

I think there used to be a long term PSR up from Springs Branch to just short of Bryn and it was a very long 20 mph maybe the times havent been changed i think that speed limit has gone now with the improvements .


RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 14/10/2015 22:21

Just been told that Northern are loaning some Class 47s and a Class 57 for Crimbo Extras in the Manchester area


RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 15/10/2015 06:14

(14/10/2015 22:21)T42 PVM Wrote:  Just been told that Northern are loaning some Class 47s and a Class 57 for Crimbo Extras in the Manchester area

Wonder whether they will be like the services last year that ran to and from Preston to Manchester .

Really all hinges on Farnworth Tunnel and how they are getting on there , this tunnel really has been a thorn in Northern , TransPennine Express and Network Rail back.


RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 15/10/2015 09:51

Trains are going to be loaned from Direct Rail Services (DRS), Units being 47790, 47805, 47813, 47818, 47828, 47853 and 57301


RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 15/10/2015 17:20

Have Network Rail given Northern and TPX an idea when the line can be expected to be a two track railway between Salford Crescent and Bolton.