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RE: Northern Rail - childwallblues - 16/07/2015 06:13
(16/07/2015 06:04)wirralbus Wrote: Another Class 319 failed this time at Parkside , they do seem to be very susceptible at the moment , this caused delays for around two hours .How many failures have there been since they entered service?
Some TPX / Northern services having to operate via Manchester Piccadilly.
RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 16/07/2015 08:32
2 Many as we had the same problem on the Wigan - Liverpool either last week or the Week before
RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 16/07/2015 09:21
I think there was always going to be some teething troubles , but didn't expect to have so many in such a short length of time.
It doesn't help that the franchise is coming up for renewal , I bet some of the bidders have thought what have we let ourselves in for looking at these units , but hopefully things can only get better.
RE: Northern Rail - childwallblues - 16/07/2015 10:25
(16/07/2015 09:21)wirralbus Wrote: I think there was always going to be some teething troubles , but didn't expect to have so many in such a short length of time.You speak as if failures are the norm but don't give any statistical evidence.
It doesn't help that the franchise is coming up for renewal , I bet some of the bidders have thought what have we let ourselves in for looking at these units , but hopefully things can only get better.
You state that there was a two hour delay at Parkside. Why wasn't the failed unit rescued by the following 319 whivh would not be two hours behind?
RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 16/07/2015 10:56
(16/07/2015 10:25)childwallblues Wrote: You speak as if failures are the norm but don't give any statistical evidence.
You state that there was a two hour delay at Parkside. Why wasn't the failed unit rescued by the following 319 whivh would not be two hours behind?
Yesterday's failure was in two different spots , the unit eventually got moving the first time , but came to grief a second time near to Culcheth Farm , the second time requiring assistance , it may not always be possible to assist straight away due to the units that may be following.
There has been a few failures up towards Bryn and Garswood , but a failure in the location it did fail in is very high profile .
RE: Northern Rail - St Helens Rider - 16/07/2015 11:45
It could be worse though, had this electrification had happened 20 years ago, we would probably have ended up with something like the 308 slam door stock which the Leeds/Bradford - Skipton/Ilkley lines in West Yorkshire got lumped with.
Although the 319's have been refurbished internally, I don't think any other parts of the unit have been refreshed and given their tough life down South, problems like these are more likely to happen.
RE: Northern Rail - Sprinterdriver - 18/07/2015 21:15
Nothing has been done to the 319's mechanically. They are due a major overhaul in a couple of years, which could include all kinds of things, even a new traction package, if that's what is wanted.
Lets put things in perspective a little, there were always going to be teething troubles, but despite a few failures the 319's are returning a failure rate nearly twice that of the DMU fleet. Don't forget some of the disruptions are due to infrastructure problems, such as the breakers tripping at Huyton a few weeks ago and the tree at Garswood.
SD.
RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 19/07/2015 05:21
With overhead wires you will get more infrastructure problems , just like Merseyrail do with the third rail.
This last one though on the main route over Chat Moss , had an effect on TPX and ATW not just on NT , which makes it so high profile and in the public eye.
RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 22/07/2015 13:27
144012 is heading back to Northern Rail today!
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R40026/2015/07/22/advanced
RE: Northern Rail - St Helens Rider - 24/07/2015 15:52
"New" Timetable
http://nw-sparks.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/new-timetable.html
Credit: North West Sparks News Blog.
So by this information, it's looking like the Liverpool - Wigan - Preston route won't see an Electric train on a Sunday until Blackpool - Preston is wired.