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RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - YN05 WKE - 06/10/2014 22:58

Well I know the drivers that do a Cheshire Connects services in Nantwich also do DeeBee and into the port as seen same drivers on both

Also last Monday Everning SK02TYS plus a Cheshire connects solo where at Tarvin Yard


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - DLG817 - 06/10/2014 23:14

(06/10/2014 22:58)E208 WBG Wrote:  Well I know the drivers that do a Cheshire Connects services in Nantwich also do DeeBee and into the port as seen same drivers on both

Also last Monday Everning SK02TYS plus a Cheshire connects solo where at Tarvin Yard

My understanding is that Dart - SK02TYS and Solo YJ59GHA are based in Tarvin.

Howevere Solos YJ59GHB, YJ59GHD, YJ59GHG and DK09ENW are at Winsford.


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - DLG817 - 06/10/2014 23:21

(06/10/2014 22:56)E208 WBG Wrote:  Why not Tarvin like the rest of the Nantwich Buses also what service from 27th October nowt on Cheshire East Website or GHA site

There is mention on the latest news section of the GHA site - http://www.ghacoaches.co.uk/news.asp

27th October 2014
New GHA services registered in Cheshire East - 8A,9 Crewe/Wistaston - 42,90 Congleton/Crewe
Variation to existing services in Cheshire East - 39 Crewe/Nantwich - 51/52/52a/53 Nantwich/Delamere Road - 72/73/75 Nantwich/Whitchurch/Market Drayton - Connect 88 Knutsford/Altrincham
Timetables and more information coming soon...


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - Valandil - 07/10/2014 04:42

(06/10/2014 21:31)DLG817 Wrote:  GHA have published on their website the new timetables starting 2nd November for the recently won T3 (X94) Barmouth service which helpfully by the colour coding shows the vehicle schedules - Mon to Sat and Sunday

The colour-coding really is helpful to us enthusiasts!
I cannot quite work out what the boxes on the timetables are though: perhaps they are the workings which will be doubled-up (for schools and colleges)?
I also cannot see why working 1 takes an inordinately lengthy break at Dolgellau (1826 to 2005), destroying what would otherwise have been an hourly evening service -- but maybe this just has to happen for operational reasons or something like that.


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - M60lad - 07/10/2014 06:13

1> What services are now operated out of Winsford Depot?

2> What services are operated out of Tarvin Depot?

Sorry for the above but I think I'm getting confused of who's operating which services

3> Whereabouts is Winsford Depot?

4> What's the current allocation to both Winsford and Tarvin Depot's


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - YN05 WKE - 07/10/2014 07:03

(07/10/2014 06:13)M60lad Wrote:  1> What services are now operated out of Winsford Depot?

2> What services are operated out of Tarvin Depot?

Sorry for the above but I think I'm getting confused of who's operating which services

3> Whereabouts is Winsford Depot?

4> What's the current allocation to both Winsford and Tarvin Depot's

Sure the routes out of Tarvin is 36, 45, 82, DB, 11/11A some Nantwich routes
Winsford I guess be Macclesfield, Crewe and Nantwich routes including X22 and X20

But I may be wrong

Would be intresting to see a depot to depot fleet allocation tbh


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - trawscymru27 - 07/10/2014 08:17

Timetables for most of the new Cheshire East services are on Traveline North West.

A brief summary as far as I know:
* 8A (Crewe) has new evening journeys between Crewe and Sydney operated by GHA.
* 27/27A/27B (Vale) has 3 return journeys added to the timetable, in addition to the current journeys which are slightly retimed. It seems likely these will be operated by a vehicle in betweeen school runs. Therefore possibly Mon-Fri only.
* 39 has route changes and earlier and later buses added. Now serves Weston, but no longer the Clonners Field Estate in Nantwich.
* 42 transfers to GHA from D&G with minor retiming of services and removal of loop serving Grand Junc Retail Park and the railway station in Crewe.
* 53 (Nantwich town) is cancelled and replaced by extended service 6 (D&G Bus).
* 78 evening and Saturday journeys transfer to GHA.
* 88 becomes half-hourly.
* 90/91 (Congleton) transfer to GHA with half-hourly frequency throughout the day (currently some gaps).
* 92 (Congleton) transfers to GHA and now operates Monday - Saturday half-hourly.

May also be changes to 72/73/75 but not sure what these are yet.

Hope this helps.


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - DLG817 - 07/10/2014 11:46

(07/10/2014 06:13)M60lad Wrote:  1> What services are now operated out of Winsford Depot?

2> What services are operated out of Tarvin Depot?
The following is not guaranteed to be accurate - but is a result of my observations and chats to depot staff.

Service No - - Route - - - Depot
 6E (Evening Only)  Leighton Hospital - Crewe - Shavington Winsford
 6 (Ellesmere Port)  Ellesmere Port Town Service Tarvin
 7 (Ellesmere Port)  Ellesmere Port Town Service Ruabon
 8 (Sunday and Bank Holiday Only)  Chester Bus Exchange - Vicars Cross - Hoole Lane Tarvin
 11 (Evening Only)  Rhyl - Holywell Tarvin
 11A (Evening Only)  Holywell - Chester Tarvin ?
 15  Chester Bus Exchange - Saughall Tarvin
 16  Knutsford - St Nicholas Catholic High ?
 X20  Middlewich - Winsford - Kelsall - Cheshire Oaks Winsford
 21  Chester Bus Exchange - Mickle Trafford - Helsby - Frodsham Tarvin
 X22  Winsford - Liverpool Winsford driver using Tarvin vehicle
 27, 27A, 27B  Macclesfield - Chelford - Knutsford | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) Macclesfield
 36  Ellesmere Port - Cheshire Oaks - Elton - Frodsham - Runcorn Tarvin
 38 (Evening Only)  Crewe - Sandbach - Congleton - Macclesfield Macclesfield
 39  Crewe - Shavington - Nantwich Winsford
 48  Frodsham - Northwich Tarvin
 51, 52, 52A, 53 (Circular)  Nantwich Town Service Winsford
 K56  Nantwich - Tiverton | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) ?
 77  Congleton - Astbury - Mow Cop - Kidsgrove Winsford
 72, 73, 75  Nantwich - Whitchurch Winsford (some jouneys Tarvin)
 X81  Winsford - Hanley Winsford
 82, 82A, 82B, X82  Chester - Tarvin - Kelsall - Northwich Tarvin
 83  Bulkeley - Bunbury - Huxley - Chester | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) ?
 130 (Sunday and Bank Holiday Only)  Macclesfield - Wilmslow - Manchester Piccadilly Mainly Tarvin but input from Ruabon and Winsford staff
 200  Wilmslow - Manchester Airport Viewing Park | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) Macclesfield
 289  Northwich - Knutsford - Altrincham Tarvin
 319  Sandbach - Twemlow Green Winsford
 C87 (Friday Only)  Utkinton - Tarporly - Northwich Tarvin
 C89 (Wednesday Only)  Utkinton - Tarporly - Winsford - Northwich Tarvin
 Connect 19, 19X  Macclesfield - Fallibroome HighSchool - Prestbury | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) Macclesfield
 Connect 88  Knutsford - Mobberley - Wilmslow - Altrincham | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) Tarvin
 DB1  Mold - Treuddyn - Higher Kinnerton - Chester - Blacon Ruabon and Tarvin
 DB2  Saltney Ferry - Chester - Ellesmere Port Tarvin
 DB3  Blacon - Chester City Centre - Saltney Ferry - Leeswood Ruabon
 DB8  Chester Business Park - Ince Tarvin
 P1  Middlewood - Poynton - Hazel Grove Macclesfield
 RR3  Disley - Macclesfield | (Operated by Vale of Llangollen) Macclesfield
 SP1, SP2  Mold - Buckley - Cheshire Oaks - Ellesmere Port Ruabon


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - DLG817 - 07/10/2014 11:52

(07/10/2014 06:13)M60lad Wrote:  3> Whereabouts is Winsford Depot?

Address = Smokehall Lane, Winsford, CW7 3BE

It is within (and at the rear of) the Warehouse One secure site


RE: GHA Group (Bryn Melyn, Vale Travel + Others) - DLG817 - 07/10/2014 13:10

(07/10/2014 06:13)M60lad Wrote:  4> What's the current allocation to both Winsford and Tarvin Depot's

I have found that it is impossible to keep an up to date depot allocation - mainly because there is a very rapid exchange of vehicles between depots. The main reason being that most of the maintenance of vehicles is undertaken at Ruabon and therefore there is usually a rotation during inspections and when repair work is undertaken.

My observation and understanding of 'service' vehicles at Winsford recently are :-

4 x Cheshire East liveried vehicles YT59GHB, YT59GHD, YT59GHG and DK09ENW
2 x GHA(low floor) Solos recently seen X319CBT (working Ruabon yesterday) and LJI8023
2 x low floor service buses – R838/9RPG (not confirmed these are Winsford vehicles)
1 x non low floor service bus - N8GHA

Coaches (including midi coaches) at Winsford this week:-
144XUB, 6052VT, ASV257, BP52XAE, DA04GHA, G410YAY, HIB967, M784RVY, M905OVR, R636RSE, R979PRD, UKZ5466, YN54OAU, YN54OAW

Minibuses this week at Winsford were:-
KE04JUY, KF02ZSO, WX05XVN, WX54PWV




Service buses which have been at Tarvin recently are : -

AA04GHA, BA56GHA, B10PTL, CA53GHA (at Ruabon on Monday), GA04GHA, MX58KZF, NA04GHA, R226HCD, R503JFE (at Ruabon on Monday), R504JFE, SK02TYS, SN03DZZ, SN04EFT, SN04EFV, T314UOX, T510APS, X9GHA, YJ04BVB, YJ59GFX, YJ59GFY, YJ59GHA, YM52TPO, YM52TPU, YM52TPX (working Ruabon on Monday),

Non low floor Deckers which were at Tarvin this week :-
1810VT, 4051VT, 8701VT, G627EKA, K129DAO, K130DAO, K656UNH, L602NOS, M168GRY, N621KUA, N622KUA, R371DJN, R638MNU, S644KJU


Low floor Deckers which have been seen at Tarvin recently :-
V220MEV, W465WGH, W469BCW, W471WGH

Single deck school vehicles at Tarvin:-
P5VLT, 9509VT



AGAIN I will repeat that the above is simply based on my observations and cannot be held to be a reliable depot allocation list.