(24/06/2020 09:55)wirralbus Wrote:  They was the three things that the administrator had to leverage with as everything else was leased up to the hilt.

They now reckon within 2 weeks there will be further details of what they will do with the brand .

Not good news if you was a driver or worked in one of there hotels at present as they are not included in this deal.

(24/06/2020 10:59)knutstransport Wrote:  The administrator's job is to try and sell any assets in an attempt to recover money for the creditors of the business. In this instance it's similar to Woolworths and Habitat - the brand is an asset worth money but no-one wants the brand if it comes with an insolvent business.

I think Leger will become a bit like American company Globus/Cosmos where holidays sold under one brand offer few inclusions and use 3* hotels, while the other brand offers more inclusions, will use more luxury coaches and will sometimes use 4* hotels.

I'm aware Leger coaches in the North West heading towards Kent just pick up everyone going on any holiday to Europe and then people get moved to trip specific coaches ahead of crossing the channel. I wonder if that'll mean they standardise pickups for both Leger and Shearings for greater cost effectiveness.

I imagine short term Leger will be struggling to find enough work for all their existing drivers, without taking on more.

(24/06/2020 11:34)ant17612 Wrote:  I wasn't aware Leger employed drivers as thought all their work was subcontracted to operators?

(24/06/2020 10:59)knutstransport Wrote:  The administrator's job is to try and sell any assets in an attempt to recover money for the creditors of the business. In this instance it's similar to Woolworths and Habitat - the brand is an asset worth money but no-one wants the brand if it comes with an insolvent business.

I think Leger will become a bit like American company Globus/Cosmos where holidays sold under one brand offer few inclusions and use 3* hotels, while the other brand offers more inclusions, will use more luxury coaches and will sometimes use 4* hotels.

I'm aware Leger coaches in the North West heading towards Kent just pick up everyone going on any holiday to Europe and then people get moved to trip specific coaches ahead of crossing the channel. I wonder if that'll mean they standardise pickups for both Leger and Shearings for greater cost effectiveness.

I imagine short term Leger will be struggling to find enough work for all their existing drivers, without taking on more.

(24/06/2020 11:49)iMarkeh Wrote:  Didn't Shearings make people change coaches? That is why they have the Normanton and Lymm coach stations so people can change between the coaches before going off to the respective destinations.

Leger I think may want to standardise pick ups to make sure of the capacity but I'm not sure if they will make everyone go to Kent to change. They might use somewhere closer like Birchwood if they have a lot of extra passengers and tours.

(24/06/2020 12:13)knutstransport Wrote:  How would it work for cross-channel trips if they didn't use Kent for the changeover point? If they have a trip to say Luxembourg, they might have some passengers joining at points along the M6, others at points along the M4, others at points along the M1, others at points along the M5 etc. If they want a trip to be on sale to everyone from every pickup point, to run if there's only 30 people in total booked on it, they don't want to ask customers to change coaches multiple times and they don't want to run coaches in to Europe with only a few people on each coach, then using Kent as the changeover point is the logical solution.

(27/06/2020 20:44)wirralbus Wrote:  All those tourismo's going on the market , its going to have an effect on the coach market in the UK for new coaches surely .