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RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - MTL0201 - 23/02/2018 12:34
Another thing, Arriva had to replace a lot of the deckers, the average age of the Atlanteans & Titans were 18-20 years when Arriva took over, although Arriva replaced them with inadequate Darts, Cadets & Myllenniums, what did surprise me was Arriva withdrawing most of the E & F reg Olympians, think only a couple stayed, a lot of it was due to a policy of a certain B Hind, only recent years Arriva have got new deckers.
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - mathias - 23/02/2018 16:18
(21/02/2018 20:41)motormayhem1 Wrote: The B6BLEs and B10BLEs order was honoured on the grounds the interior colours could be changed to suit arriva's livery as they were originally ordered with the same interior as the B10 endurances i was told.
True!
It seems the interior colours and seating were the only things changed from the original MTL order. Even the number plates were booked by MTL but kept to order by Arriva.
The Renowns would've followed the Endurances, keeping the Volvo sequence thus;
MTL 6621 (N621 CKA) B10B/Endurance
MTL 6622 (N622 CKA) B10B/Endurance
MTL 6623 (N623 CKA) B10B/Endurance
MTL 6701 (X701 DBT) B10BLE/Renown
MTL 6702 (X702 DBT) B10BLE/Renown
MTL 6703 (X703 DBT) B10BLE/Renown etc.
Needless to say, Arriva re-numbered them to 2701 etc, and they've only recently been withdrawn.
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - Y458 KNF - 23/02/2018 19:55
(23/02/2018 16:18)mathias Wrote: True!2728 & 2730 are still in service but haven't got long left now I think
It seems the interior colours and seating were the only things changed from the original MTL order. Even the number plates were booked by MTL but kept to order by Arriva.
The Renowns would've followed the Endurances, keeping the Volvo sequence thus;
MTL 6621 (N621 CKA) B10B/Endurance
MTL 6622 (N622 CKA) B10B/Endurance
MTL 6623 (N623 CKA) B10B/Endurance
MTL 6701 (X701 DBT) B10BLE/Renown
MTL 6702 (X702 DBT) B10BLE/Renown
MTL 6703 (X703 DBT) B10BLE/Renown etc.
Needless to say, Arriva re-numbered them to 2701 etc, and they've only recently been withdrawn.
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - SK15 GZG - 23/02/2018 20:22
(23/02/2018 16:18)mathias Wrote: True!
It seems the interior colours and seating were the only things changed from the original MTL order. Even the number plates were booked by MTL but kept to order by Arriva.
The Renowns would've followed the Endurances, keeping the Volvo sequence thus;
The Crusaders would have followed the Marshall Capitals too - 7801-7822 (or 7801-7820 if X810/20 AJA were issued)
It makes you wonder though. If MTL were still around today what would their fleet consist of?
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - T42 PVM - 23/02/2018 20:25
I bet 2728 is withdrawn when the 12 gets cut back next month
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - MPTE1955 - 23/02/2018 22:26
(23/02/2018 20:22)Y474 KNF Wrote: The Crusaders would have followed the Marshall Capitals too - 7801-7822 (or 7801-7820 if X810/20 AJA were issued)
It makes you wonder though. If MTL were still around today what would their fleet consist of?
Probably ex London stock, I base that on the acquisition of all those titans.
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - SLTRegular - 24/02/2018 05:33
If Mtl and more Importantly by Beloved Northwestern where still about i wonder what the frequencies would be like on routes where they competed. I Wonder if Skelmersdale would still be Open? I wonder what vehicles would have been bought instead?
I mean my old uk based route was the 352 but we had the 62/342/352/362/372/510 maybe some others i do wonder what frequencies would be like and if places would have better links, Maybe even the 362 would still be SH to Chorley via Wigan?
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - MTL0201 - 24/02/2018 11:20
(24/02/2018 05:33)SLTRegular Wrote: If Mtl and more Importantly by Beloved Northwestern where still about i wonder what the frequencies would be like on routes where they competed. I Wonder if Skelmersdale would still be Open? I wonder what vehicles would have been bought instead?
I mean my old uk based route was the 352 but we had the 62/342/352/362/372/510 maybe some others i do wonder what frequencies would be like and if places would have better links, Maybe even the 362 would still be SH to Chorley via Wigan?
North Western would still be Arriva regardless, & Skem depot prob still be closed. MTL would be a different company, as the MTL would have gone bankrupt had no one brought MTL.
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - Metroline1511 - 24/02/2018 20:18
(21/02/2018 20:38)buses7675 Wrote: As far as I know, 7675 V675DVU was the last bus actually delivered to MTL in January 2000.
Other people might have already realised this. However, I now know where you got your username from!
RE: Happy 18th Birthday Arriva Merseyside - Metroline1511 - 24/02/2018 20:21
(23/02/2018 20:22)Y474 KNF Wrote: The Crusaders would have followed the Marshall Capitals too - 7801-7822 (or 7801-7820 if X810/20 AJA were issued)
It makes you wonder though. If MTL were still around today what would their fleet consist of?
As MTL had such a nice moquette, it's a pity that no more buses came with this following the takeover by Arriva.