(30/07/2016 10:30)knutstransport Wrote:  When you say they've left for financing companies, does that mean they've gone to companies who had given loans to GHA as a result of the loans not being repaid?

(30/07/2016 01:34)LJ51 DDA Wrote:  forgot to post this I noticed yesterday Lloyds had two brand new Enviro 200s on the T3 whether there was more i do not know as i only seen two i presume they are leased rather than brand new but im not to sure on that, The registrations have slipped my head now but both were YY16 ***.

(30/07/2016 15:37)Danfilm007 Wrote:  There were a few 59 plate ones if I can recall, and as long as they're in okish condition (Most of them are), it's buses they can buy and hold onto for a few years and taking the dependency away from hiring in at the moment. They might keep the branding in the short term, it wouldn't be much of a shock either way to me.

(30/07/2016 18:30)DLG817 Wrote:  I am no expert but my understanding is that those allowed to leave are ones where the finance companies can prove ownership. That would mean the vehicles has been financed under an agreement similar to a hire purchase. If money was simply loaned to the company for the purchase of a vehicle then the loaner would just be a creditor and not entitled to the vehicle. I also understand that some of the buses are subjected to a 'chattel mortgage' and this means that the lender will have legal entitlement to the vehicle until the loan is satisfied.

(31/07/2016 09:20)knutstransport Wrote:  OK Thanks. So I'm guessing the sale of those buses will probably be via a different method to the rest of the GHA fleet.

(30/07/2016 14:23)iMarkeh Wrote:  D&G are just legends. They took on so much. SC Chester and Arriva Chester could have done more. Even if Arriva Chester took a few evening Wrexhams and use the buses of the 12 as that finishes early. SC Chester always has deckers sat doing nothing. They could help with 82 or even use the deckers on silly routes like 51 and then send the darts to SP1/2. Arriva Chester has a large depot and few routes. I personally think they could do more. I know it may seem a lil harsh but Peter Allman could do the middle day DB4 then run to Upton for the school run. It is just small things that companies could do but just dont. D&G and Townlynx have taken on a heck of a lot and I think if it wasnt for them, not even half of GHA would be covered. Some companies have done small other bits but I deffo think there are more spare buses and drivers than people are letting on. Especially on Sundays/Evenings. Through the week cant they reduce some services and interwork them to save on buses? It wont work all the time but in some cases, I think it could work.

(30/07/2016 11:31)mikestone Wrote:  Transport Service Solutions, as far as I am aware, is not an operator just Cheshire East Council's hived off transport department. Presumably one of their staff is manning the phone and someone else providing the vehicle?

(31/07/2016 15:40)chester285 Wrote:  Its not as simple as that though they can only take more work on if they have the vehicles and the drivers, SC the majority of the double deckers have returned to Gillmoss as they were only covering schools and aren't a permeant allocation, plus you have got the operating licence dictating how many vehicles the depot can run. quite often see the trident and enviro 400 on the 51/53! You also have to bear in mind that it may not also be financially viable for a depot to take an emergency contract on as you still have running costs to factor in.