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RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - 507022 - 30/06/2025 14:44
Sorry for going off thread, but the Euston to Man Vic idea takes me back to the 1990s when Regional Railways were planning a similar service using pairs of 158s, but it never got off the ground
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - knutstransport - 30/06/2025 16:53
(30/06/2025 14:44)507022 Wrote: Sorry for going off thread, but the Euston to Man Vic idea takes me back to the 1990s when Regional Railways were planning a similar service using pairs of 158s, but it never got off the ground
North Western Trains did run a Rochdale to London service (using 158s), as well as a Manchester Airport to Euston service (using 322s). Neither lasted long. There's also been some track applications from Alliance Rail regarding running services from Huddersfield/Victoria to London via Warrington, but they failed to get approved.
I think at one point Central Trains extended a service to Manchester Airport, while London Midland did attempt to start an hourly stopping Preston to Birmingham service. At a timetable change they introduced one northbound afternoon service to Preston that didn't stop between Crewe and Warrington and ran back ECS to Crewe - which defeated the point of it!
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - childwallblues - 16/07/2025 17:50
From next Monday Class 730/2 units are due to start in service on the Liverpool to Birmingham route. There will be two diagrams at first.
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - knutstransport - 17/07/2025 19:33
(16/07/2025 17:50)childwallblues Wrote: From next Monday Class 730/2 units are due to start in service on the Liverpool to Birmingham route. There will be two diagrams at first.
Any news on the exact diagrams?
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - childwallblues - 19/07/2025 16:57
No yet. I am assuming the first two of the day and then every for hours.
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - knutstransport - 21/07/2025 12:22
Looks like there's just the one 730/2 unit out today on Liverpool-Birmingham. It is on a diagram which includes Winsford calls, so that issue with the union must have been resolved (at least enough for them to stop the units there on a temporary basis).
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:LIV/2025-07-21/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=passenger&order=wtt&toc=LM
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - childwallblues - Yesterday 19:36
730234 was the first unit to be used on the LIV-BHM service on Monday. None out today but it is reported on Rail UK Forums that two should be in service tomorrow. 730234 has been joined at Arriva Traincare Cre by 730213/233.
730204 was seen in Crewe Station this afternoon.
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - Gordon V - Today 14:27
(Yesterday 19:36)childwallblues Wrote: 730234 was the first unit to be used on the LIV-BHM service on Monday. None out today but it is reported on Rail UK Forums that two should be in service tomorrow. 730234 has been joined at Arriva Traincare Cre by 730213/233.
730204 was seen in Crewe Station this afternoon.
Correction to the above,730226 was in service yesterday (22 July)
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - knutstransport - Today 14:53
(Today 14:27)Gordon V Wrote: Correction to the above,730226 was in service yesterday (22 July)
RTT shows it in service until the 14:33 Liverpool to Birmingham, but it's return working was cancelled due to a trespass incident, which saw quite a few evening services cancelled, one terminating short at Stafford and a double 350 set running a few Liverpool-Crewe only services.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:LIV/2025-07-22/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=passenger&order=wtt&toc=LM
RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR - Gordon V - Today 14:56
(Today 14:53)knutstransport Wrote: RTT shows it in service until the 14:33 Liverpool to Birmingham, but it's return working was cancelled due to a trespass incident, which saw quite a few evening services cancelled, one terminating short at Stafford and a double 350 set running a few Liverpool-Crewe only services.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:LIV/2025-07-22/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=passenger&order=wtt&toc=LM
Correct with that.