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RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - mbonwick - 22/08/2012 21:39
(22/08/2012 18:34)ace Wrote:(21/08/2012 22:03)W179 SCU Wrote: When the B10M's get withdrawn, what is going to take there place on the 505, 508, 516 etc.
I think that may be where the transferred MAN's come in by the sound of it.
...or maybe not.....
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - cumbria0902150 - 23/08/2012 01:07
(22/08/2012 20:01)Nicholas Wrote: The 508 has a PVR of 2
Talking of 508, why is the 508/108 numbered in such a bizarre way? The 508 is simply a holiday/weekend extension to the 108, so the same number should be used throughout.
It is an odd one.
The route used to be Penrith operated 108 Penrith - Glenridding - Patterdale (7 days a week) and Kendal operated 517 Bowness - Windermere - Patterdale - Glenridding (weekends only Easter - Halloween, plus every day over summer holidays), but they were merged together as 508 working straight through Bowness - Pattedale - Glenridding - Penrith. So really, 508 is the best of both routes. It is simpler having 508 as opposed to having 108 connecting with 517. The standard weekday Penrith - Patterdale still being numbered 108, simplifying the difference. The process of merging togther improved the 517 side from 3 return trips per day to 4 return trips per day, still only requiring 1 bus from each depot as per 108 and 517 as independant routes.
Penrith's board on 508 will, as far as I am aware, continue to be B10M. Not 100% sure on Kendal's board, but I would imagine that would be B10M too, until suitable vehicles are found for climbing up Kirkstone Pass. The R-XVM B10M's don't take it well (they're timetabled a break at the top to cool down), but they're better than a MAN ALX300 would be. The old K/M reg B10M's take it no problem. (The 3 speed Voith's in the R reg's might be a smoother ride, but the 4 speed ZF's in the older ones tackle Cumbria's toughest routes a hell of a lot better).
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - enrag2000 - 23/08/2012 07:53
(23/08/2012 01:07)cumbria0902150 Wrote:(22/08/2012 20:01)Nicholas Wrote: The 508 has a PVR of 2
Talking of 508, why is the 508/108 numbered in such a bizarre way? The 508 is simply a holiday/weekend extension to the 108, so the same number should be used throughout.
It is an odd one.
The route used to be Penrith operated 108 Penrith - Glenridding - Patterdale (7 days a week) and Kendal operated 517 Bowness - Windermere - Patterdale - Glenridding (weekends only Easter - Halloween, plus every day over summer holidays), but they were merged together as 508 working straight through Bowness - Pattedale - Glenridding - Penrith. So really, 508 is the best of both routes. It is simpler having 508 as opposed to having 108 connecting with 517. The standard weekday Penrith - Patterdale still being numbered 108, simplifying the difference. The process of merging togther improved the 517 side from 3 return trips per day to 4 return trips per day, still only requiring 1 bus from each depot as per 108 and 517 as independant routes.
Penrith's board on 508 will, as far as I am aware, continue to be B10M. Not 100% sure on Kendal's board, but I would imagine that would be B10M too, until suitable vehicles are found for climbing up Kirkstone Pass. The R-XVM B10M's don't take it well (they're timetabled a break at the top to cool down), but they're better than a MAN ALX300 would be. The old K/M reg B10M's take it no problem. (The 3 speed Voith's in the R reg's might be a smoother ride, but the 4 speed ZF's in the older ones tackle Cumbria's toughest routes a hell of a lot better).
I travelled on the Penrith-operated run on 7th April when Dart SLF 34715 was used - probably in the absence of a B10M. In spite of picking up nearly a decent load at Glenridding, it handled Kirkstone Pass with ease. Still, don't suppose there is much chance of getting a Dart on a regular basis!
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - jonesy3001 - 24/08/2012 14:36
ME Enviro 400s 10025-29/31 arrived back home last night leaving 10014-10024/30 to come. The Enviro 300s 27743-54 are back after the paralympics.
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - W179 SCU - 28/08/2012 17:33
do Stagecoach do any kind of shuttle etc... for the Great North Swim as I am going to watch next year?
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - jonesy3001 - 29/08/2012 12:58
The last leyland olympian at ME has now been withdrawn from service as the Enviro400s are entering service.
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - W179 SCU - 04/09/2012 16:12
Carlisle Youth Zone dart was on the 685 to Newcastle today!
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - jonesy3001 - 05/09/2012 15:02
Latest ME movements;
10024/30 are back from london,
16103 has gone to kendal,
16657 has gone to lillyhall,
18324 went for repaint at Carlisle and is now staying there,
22134/7 that replaced 18375/80 but then replaced by the latter enviro 400s are going to carlisle.
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - mbonwick - 05/09/2012 16:51
AFAIK 16103 is only on loan to Kendal whilst they in turn are loaning 16645 to Barrow to cover an X35 Trident which failed at Kendal.
RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - gilbert - 05/09/2012 20:11
Has anything happened to the recently arrived[at Carlisle] ex Manchester MAN's yet? Are any more going there?