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RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - CX54 DKD - 22/08/2013 22:00

DEM777Y, the problem with Sapphire treatment, assuming we're talking about current stock and nothing new, is that it's only cosmetic. So if the vehicles are already suffering from poor reliability, a Sapphire refurbishment programme would do little to help. I definitely think new vehicles, whether that's hybrids or otherwise, are the way to go with the 375/385 though.


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - wirralbus - 22/08/2013 22:36

Is it the sort of terrain that the vehicles are now operating in now that is causing the reliability problems , long open stretch's of consistent running , compared to the stop start nature of Speke work which is now taking its toll on the buses .

Until they get to the bottom of whats causing the unreliabilty i wouldnt even go along the lines of new buses .


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - DEM777Y - 23/08/2013 07:35

(22/08/2013 22:00)CX54 DKD Wrote:  DEM777Y, the problem with Sapphire treatment, assuming we're talking about current stock and nothing new, is that it's only cosmetic. So if the vehicles are already suffering from poor reliability, a Sapphire refurbishment programme would do little to help. I definitely think new vehicles, whether that's hybrids or otherwise, are the way to go with the 375/385 though.

That's true, I'd not thought of that! No point having a lovely shiny bus with leather seats and wi-fi if it keeps conking out all the time :-)


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - skemnational - 23/08/2013 10:44

The route should be split in my opinion 375 to concourse 395 to concourse


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - wirralbus - 23/08/2013 11:52

I do not think that splitting the 375 will work .

The 395 enhances the 375 service it shouldnt be used to replace it .

If you do split the service the 375 probably would not need all the double deckers that Southport have at present .

What part of the present 375 needs Double deckers ?


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - H101GEV - 23/08/2013 13:54

All of the present 375 needs double deckers - it's a very well used route. If the route were to be split, Southport could easily justify using some of the B7s on the 47/48 which also load well.

Although it isn't the sort of bus Arriva order, the Scania/Enviro400s used on the X2/2X seem to do very well. The routes are relatively similar in that both involve long runs without stopping.


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - CX54 DKD - 23/08/2013 14:09

What's the reliability like with Rhyl's Geminis? I've certainly not heard any reports of chronic unreliability but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. If they operate fine there on the 11/G/M, which is just as, if not more, strenuous a route than the 375/385, you wouldn't think there'd necessarily be a need to be a move away from the standard Arriva purchase of integral Geminis - not that something different wouldn't be nice of course!


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - skemnational - 23/08/2013 15:48

We hardly ever have a full bus from skem to Wigan anyway so can't see why it wouldn't work


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - skemnational - 28/08/2013 12:51

Marshall on 375/385 today


RE: Arriva North West - Southport Depot - PO59 MXJ - 28/08/2013 23:43

(28/08/2013 12:51)skemnational Wrote:  Marshall on 375/385 today

Seen this arriving in Southport at about 16:55